Hello Chris,
I know what the message is saying, or at least a few words of it that Jaws
is able to see. I am not able to press or find any controls in this
dialogue, please understand. And I know how to find the download for myself
if I wish, then download and install it. Which I've already done, in fact.
this is not my problem. My problem is this inaccessible dialogue that
interposes itself between me and the Winamp interface. Again, I can not
find or activate any control on it at all. So all I can do is exit the
entire thing, then if I wish, go to winamp.com or some file download site
and procure the update for myself and install it. then the notice stops
happening, of course.
No solutions offered have been something that I could do, but that's okay.
From now on, when that happens, I'll just exit Winamp and stop it playing
whatever had launched it, go find the update and install it, and proceed
again. It's a bit of a bother, you see, because I'm not a sophisticated
Winamp user and only user it to play single files, not anything more. No
playlists, no library or whatever. So most of these updates probably don't
do a thing for me. But if I've got to update Winamp in order to stop this
thing happening, that's the price I'll pay for the couple of handy things in
Winamp that work nicely for me while playing a file.
Thanks very much.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Skarstad" <toonhead@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 7:26 PM
Subject: Re: Getting around Win amp Update freeze-out
Hi, dan
I think what is probably happening is that Winamp is giving you an
opportunity to update Winamp right from the application itself, but
for whatever reason, you aren't able to properly read what it says
after you press the yes button. To fix this, when the alert for
Winamp's newest version comes on, press the no button and then simply go to
http://www.winamp.com/player/ and then hit your b kkey a couple times
and you will be able to press enter on a button that'll let you
download the latest Winamp right there. It seems just so much easier
to do it this way, why not do it the way that works, rather than
trying to do it the way that clearly isn't working? I understand
you're wanting to understand why it doesn't work, but in this case,
your ultimate goal here, at least i'm guessing, is to actually
downnload and install the update, so the website is actually a very
easy way to get the update.
hope that helps.
So i would just manually download the updates. In fact, 99 percent
of the people on the Winamp list that I run find the update feature
to be a real pain and just disable it within the preferences. That
way they can just do it easily and download the updates
manually. That's how i've been doing it for the entire time I've used
Winamp.
At 10:57 AM 1/22/2008, you wrote:
>hello Wanda,
>
>thanks for your comment. But I am not convinced that a Web page is being
>displayed on my screen, replacing the interface of Winamp. I have two
>reasons for saying this. First, although it never occurred to me to try
>using command so Web specific as single letter navigation keystrokes, I
>certainly have used my Tab key and arrow keys, which revealed nothing, as
>if
>I were in a completely blank space. Second, I'm partially sighted, and can
>see that the Winamp window is right there on my screen in the position
>where it usually appears, and nothing around it seems to have changed.
>Besides which, if I alt tab, I don't find that I'm on a Web page related to
>Winamp, either. All that happens if I alt tab is that I rotate out to
>whatever other applications happen to be running at the moment, including
>whatever Web pages I've recently visited before launching Winamp,and then
>back to the Winamp interface, where the sound file is still playing without
>my being able to control it, and I am blocked from controlling it by
>something I can't see well enough to figure out what it is, still.
>
>That said, next time Winamp releases an update and this happens, before I
>try the Control F4 command to get rid of the notice, or just exit Winamp
>and
>obtain the update and install it, I will certainly experiment with the
>screen as if I were on a Web page, trying out other navigational commands
>besides the tab key and arrow keys, putting up the Jaws links list, and
>other such things.
>
>But I feel skeptical about this. Nonetheless, thanks again for your
>suggestions.
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Londa Peterson" <lpeterson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 6:22 AM
>Subject: RE: Getting around Win amp Update freeze-out
>
>
>Hi Yardbird and all,
>
>This whole thing can be cleared up very easily. When the Winamp update
>comes up, it is, in fact, a web page. Winamp goes out to the internet,
>checks for updates, and when it finds one, it sends you a web page with the
>necessary information. Use your arrow keys or other quick navigation keys
>to find the update link, and you're good to go.
>
>As to your other question, I think that was a typing error. I think he
>meant to write content. Hope this helps.
>
>Londa
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf
>Of
>Yardbird
>Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 10:08 PM
>To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: Re: Getting around Win amp Update freeze-out
>
>
>P.S.
>
>Jim,
>I just the section on the three cursors. I misspoke before about one thing.
>I know it's the PC cursor I use for most Jaws activity, and of course that
>I
>switch to the Jaws cursor to access things that the PC cursor can't access.
>And as for the Virtual Cursor, I know that's what's in play on a Web site,
>for instance, but I don't have any idea why you mention that in regard to
>this issue with the update notification that shows in Winamp sometimes,.
>Nor
>do I understand your use of the word "constant" in your explanation.
>
>So, rereading that material didn't bring me up to speed, or at least didn't
>enable me to understand what you've been trying to explain. Sorry. Maybe
>I'm
>misunderstanding you. But I wasn't having a problem on a Web page, for
>example, so I don't know how the winamp.com Web page came into the
>discussion.
>
>Well, if you can see what it is I'm not familiar with and provide an
>explanation, that would be great. Thanks.
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "jim grimsby Jr." <jimgrims@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 5:35 PM
>Subject: RE: Getting around Win amp Update freeze-out
>
>
>the help topic for JAWS explains the virtual cursor and how to deal with
>html constant in great detail. Far more so then I could do in this
>e-mail.
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
>Of Yardbird
>Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 1:03 PM
>To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: Re: Getting around Winamp Update freeze-out
>
>Well, then please explain the actions you're suggesting me to take in order
>to use the virtual cursor for this purpose. Tell me a key command or a
>method. For instance, if the Tab key is irrelevant in this situation, then
>is it something you mean I should do with another navigation key, like the
>arrow keys? If so, what do I do? If not, please explain which key to use,
>and the actions to perform. Thanks.
>
>Thank you.
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "jim grimsby Jr." <jimgrims@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 12:29 PM
>Subject: RE: Getting around Winamp Update freeze-out
>
>
>hi no when I say virtual cursor I mean just that. As the tab key is not
>part of the virtual cursor and just passes information straight to the
>program no wonder nothing happen.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
>Of Yardbird
>Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 11:25 AM
>To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: Re: Getting around Winamp Update freeze-out
>
>Hi Mr. Grims Bee,
>
>I'm sorry to say that each time this has happened to me, I've tried to use
>the tab key to find this control, which I think is what you mean by
>referring to using the virtual cursor, and the tab key reveals no controls
>at all. In other words, though I might like to accept the invitation to
>install the update when this notice appears, I can't access the control
>that
>
>would do this. If you didn't mean the virtual cursor but the Jaws cursor, I
>have switched to that and looked around also, but not figured out a way to
>do this. If it pops up again, I may try the Jaws cursor to make sure. But
>as
>
>far as using the normal operation of tab key navigation that I think is
>what's meant by virtual cursor here, it's all blank to me. I can't access
>any control in that notice nor can I operate Winamp with the usual keyboard
>commands.
>
>But the notice doesn't appear every time I launch Windamp, but only
>sporadically, as if by some program that randomizes the appearance of the
>notice. But next time it comes up, I'll try the Jaws cursor if that's what
>you meant to say.
>
>Thanks.
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "jim grimsby Jr." <jimgrims@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 10:50 AM
>Subject: RE: Getting around Winamp Update freeze-out
>
>
>Ok another thing you could do is use the virtual cursor and go click on the
>download link. It is there.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
>Of Jake Joehl
>Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 8:39 AM
>To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: Re: Getting around Winamp Update freeze-out
>
>I was actually gonna ask the same thing but it looks like one of you beat
>me
>
>to it! I have a sister who is also a JAWS user, and she has been getting
>that Winamp update too. I'm going to forward this response to her.
>
>
>Jake
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Lois Goodine" <al415@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 11:56 PM
>Subject: Re: Getting around Winamp Update freeze-out
>
>
> > There actually is a way to stop this, but you have to hunt for it with
> > persistence. Open Winamp and when that update window appears, close it
> > with control plus f4, that is if you have Jaws. Now press control P to
> > open the preferences. up or down arrow to find the general purpose
> > list.
> > Now tab, and keep tabbing till you come to something like "check for
> > update" or for new versions. Uncheck this. There's no okay button, so
> > just escape out of the preferences. Now this nuisance should be
> > banished. At least it has so far for me.
> > Hope it works for you
> > Lois Goodine.
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