Hi Dave, P.S. Here's a response that would have seemed to me more helpfully informative and less defensive, even unnecessarily hostile. In my humble opinion, and so forth. Good question, Joel. I guess you didn't know this, but at least in my Windows Vista, and I think I remember that your XP home works the same way, the Windows Express Files menu is one of those menus whose listed items change depending upon context. If you have Outlook express, you may be familiar with this from some of OE's menus, which change in the same way. so the Search item I've been talking about appears in the Files menu only if you're in the files list view right-hand pane, but not when you're on the left, in the folder tree view. Of course, if you say that your XP Home doesn't display a Search option in the Files Menu one way or another, I guess I've forgotten that XP Home isn't like my Vista in this regard. If so, sorry. But hope this helps explain what I meant. Dave Again, this alternative response is offered in good faith and kindness. Hoping to be helpful. Thank you. alteranative ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Carlson" <dgcarlson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 11:15 PM Subject: Re: File search available from Windows Explorer Files menu? The items in the file menu are different, based on whether you're in the TreeView or the ListView. That's just the way it is. I don't make the rules, I just report them. Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 18:42 Subject: Re: File search available from Windows Explorer Files menu? Dave, No, I'm afraid if you were using Win XP Home you'd find the same thing. I'm talking about being over on the right side pane in the files list view, although I don't see why that should matter, and I'll appreciate it if you can suggest some logic there. Anyway, honestly there isn't any search item, never mind the access key, because I wouldn't have been exploring that menu if all I'd done was hit the key to see if it worked. I respect knowing what's in my menus. Which is why I was puzzled to hear about this, as I've arrowed up and down that menu as well as others in Windows Explorer many times and never come across such a thing. The upside here is that it's fine with me. On the infrequent occasions when I need to search for a file because I forgot where it is or have never before seen it, I'm just fine with calling up search from the Start menu or pressing Control F if I'm in Windows Explorer. I have nothing against the design and performance of that function. I notice people saying when you exit that search it takes you out of Windows explroer. It seems to do that for me, too, but I don't care. I just press the hotkey combo someone gave me a long time ago and Windows Explorer launches again. I really don't mind. And the Search function I'm familiar with isn't a waste of time for me, and not confusing. I couldn't really understand why there was discussion about how approaching what I suppose is the same function but in a different form is better than the one I'm familiar with. But in any case, I've just got what I've got. Which does not include something on the Files menu. Thanks for the suggestion, though. it would have been interesting to try out and see for myself just what others said was so cool about it. I might have used it when it suited my search needs. Joel using dwon a prson I wouldn't I mean why a function should appear under the files menu hould . B----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Carlson" <dgcarlson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 4:38 PM Subject: Re: File search available from Windows Explorer Files menu? Perhaps XP Home doesn't offer this. Are you in the left treeView pane, or the right listView pane? You need to be in the right-side listView pane and you should have a file menu option called search, activated by the letter "E". Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: "JFW List" <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 13:57 Subject: File search available from Windows Explorer Files menu? I'm using jaws 10 to access this function. I'm using Win XP Home, and there's no Search item in the Files menu when I'm in Windows Explorer. Personally, I've always either put up the Start menu by pressing the Windows key and then, well, I keep forgetting the single key command to pick it out, although right now I'm thinking maybe it's the letter C, so I just arrow up until I come to Search, and then hit Enter. I've never thought the function that opens its own little window then to be so inconvenient, once I learned my way around it, a long time ago. And it's even got some Advanced Search options , which again I don't see as a problem in terms of using the function, but just a benefit. it works well enough if you know what you need to type into the search field, and which buttons to click on, and then how to tab into the results. And how to expand a line in the results if there's not enough information showing (Windows Explorer, View, details). maybe the conversation was about Vista, and I missed that because I didn't open the messages in the thread until recently, just out of belated curiosity? if so, sorry. thanks, Joel -- JFW related links: JFW homepage: http://www.freedomscientific.com/ Scripting mailing list: http://lists.the-jdh.com/listinfo.cgi/scriptography-the-jdh.com JFW List instructions: To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. 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