Re: Craig's List graphical password
- From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 14:49:34 -0700
John,
Thank you. I thought I heard the text on that page you pasted in say that
the Feedback thing was for that forum page, not a direct communication with
the staff as used to be possible on this site. Thanks. I'll look again.
As for copying and pasting and so forth, of course I know how you did that.
I simply could not get jaws to see anything at all on the page,myself. It's
version 6.2 and I have not the foggiest idea why the page was blank for me,
but it was. So it was nice of you to copy that message for me to see.
I'll be getting in touch with them. I know how to advocated for accessible
site design. I'll send them a nice consciousness-raising note and a few
helpful links to resources about accessible site design. Got it covered.
Just hate to have to do all that. you know.
Thanks again for the support.
----- Original Message -----
From: "john r. vaughn" <jrvaughn44@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 2:19 PM
Subject: Re: Craig's List graphical password
Yardbird,
when I went to the page all the text was there and fully accessable. And to
copy the page, while on the page, I simply did a select all text with
control plus letter A and then copied the text to the clipboard and then
pasted the text into the E mail message to you.
And the "feedback link on the first post I sent you would enable you to take
up the webmaster or folks who own the web page and do as suggest, use the
"feedback" link to let them know of your problems. They probably did not
think about the needs of the blind. I have found with many web sites, that
the web developers usually will try and make their sites accessable.
John
----- Original Message -----
From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 4:12 PM
Subject: Re: Craig's List graphical password
Oh. Okay. First, how did you access the text on that page in such a way
that you could read it, then copy and paste it into this email?
Second, I knew that was what they were up to, without the explanation. So
this just confirms it. What I was hoping for was actually an alternative
link, as some sites feature, where you can click on an audio link to hear
the code word you need to type in. Unfortunately, that isn't what's on this
page.
last, I'm afraid I'm going to still be in trouble, because if there's no
actual email link or online message form, then I'm stuck with the Forum page
that I said I can barely get around with Jaws. As I said, it's designed and
coded by someone other than the team who constructs the regular pages, which
are eminently accessible and cleanly navigable with Jaws.
Well, I'll check it out. Maybe I'll just try writing help@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx in
hopes that this will work. Darn.
an't formemaiil?
----- Original Message -----
From: "john r. vaughn" <jrvaughn44@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 1:04 PM
Subject: Re: Craig's List graphical password
Yardbird, I went to creat an account and clicked on the "whats this link"
and got the following which may be the problem for the blind. here is that
page.
John
Human Detector (Verification Word)
craigslist
online community
Human Detector (Verification Word)
The use of 3rd party software for automated posting on craigslist is
increasingly the source of lots of complaints and an unrelenting cause of
periodic
server overload.
These tools are typically used to post hundreds (sometimes thousands) of
times per day, often with the intent of keeping postings at the top of the
list.
In order to get a better handle on this situation, we're adopting a "human
detector" verification process in selected categories.
This process requires a human eye to read a word from a computer-generated
image, and then type it into a submission form.
Sorry for the hassle, but we're running out of ideas on how to cope with
this problem.
If you have questions or comments about this change, please bring them to
our attention in the
feedback forum
Thanks!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "JFW List" <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 3:13 PM
Subject: Craig's List graphical password
Craig's List, the international online community based in San Francisco, has
recently added a new and unwelcome quirk, as I just now discovered. If you
wish to post an ad in any of the classified categories, which I do, you now
have to create an account for yourself. And a feature of that procedure,
and probably when logging onto the site thereafter, is typing in a password
that-- you guessed it-- seems to be presented graphically. Worse than that,
actually. If you click on a "what's this" link to learn more, or maybe to
get to the displayed password, you wind up on what to jaws looks like a
completely blank page.
Remembering that I once contacted them for help with another site navigation
issue a long time ago by an email address they provided, I went to the Help
page to look for that contact address. But I couldn't find any such thing,
this time, just a FAQ page (which didn't mention account setup at all, never
mind blind issues), and there's also a link for what CL calls the Help Desk,
which from what I can make out (Jaws navigates it as if it's moving through
mud, so it's hard to figure out) is some kind of online forum with questions
and discussion. I couldn't figure out how to find anything there for my
problem.
Has anyone else encountered this same hassle on Craig's List? Any
suggestions? I'm really disappointed to find Craig's List so out of it in
regard to this sort of thing, considering their very community-minded ethos.
They provided one of the most effective online networks the past couple of
weeks for arranging assistance and financial contributions for the victims
of Hurricane Katrina; you'd think, etc.
thanks.
ncoutnered
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