RE: Cash Manager
- From: "Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)" <Ted.Lisle@xxxxxx>
- To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 12:31:12 -0400
The fellow gave his e-mail address, so I guess interested parties can
ask those questions directly. In my pre-Excel days, one of the sweetest
products I ever used was something called Lucid 3D, one of the first, if
not the first, thre-dimennsional spreadsheet. It featured many of the
concepts future Windows users would come to take for granted, and should
have been far more popular than it ever became. I say this merely to
note that sometimes these obscure products can be real gems.
Ted
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 12:25 PM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Cash Manager
Gary, I was confused by your original subject line, which hinted at good
news about Quicken, so I've changed it. I remember a circular like this
being posted a year or so ago, and I'm sure we're all eager to lend
support to such an appeal and initiative. But I've never heard of this
product outside the context of this listserv. If I were a Quicken user
or candidate, I'd want to know whether this program can work alongside
Quicken and similar more widespread applications so that blind and
sighted colleagues can share their work seamlessly. By analogy, I much
prefer WordPerfect as a word processor to MS Word, and I'm fortunate
that conversion between the two is quick and simple. I'm not suggesting
you have the answer, and it's important that promotions like this be
disseminated. But I wonder if other listers with accounting experience
have any thoughts. I know many people on this list swear by Excel for
accounting.
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From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Gary King
Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 11:57 AM
To: JawsScripts
Cc: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Fw: Quicken 2010
Since this message is forwarded from the GW-info list, it talks about
the accounting program the company is marketing being compatible with
Window-Eyes, but it also refers to its compatibility with other major
screen readers. Since they have both a home and business version of the
program, it could be worthwhile giving it a try for either situation.
They are welcoming feedback on any accessibility problems. The company
is located in New Zealand, but as can be seen from the below message,
there are versions for several countries.
Gary King w4wkz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
----- Original Message -----
From: Raewyn Whisker
To: gw-info@xxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 5:02 PM
Subject: Quicken 2010
My name is Raewyn Whisker and I work for a company called Accomplish. We
have an accessible accounting package called CashManager that works well
with Window-Eyes and other major screen readers.
What I would like to ask is why would you continue to work with - or
communicate with a product or company that is not listening to you? You
have alternatives, we do and have listened to our client base. We have a
business version, a not for profit version and a home version available
and accessible for the USA, UK, Australian and the New Zealand Market.
We have worked with individuals and organisations regarding the
accessiblility of our product. To name some - NFB, ACB, RNIB, Vision
Australia and RNZFB.
We are now starting to work with screen reading companies like GW Micro
to ensure we get things as easy to use as possible.
Our product has been around since 1992, and is well proven for ease of
use and functionality. We have been working on the accessiblity of the
product since 2006 when it was first bought to our attention that it was
accessible. The person who bought this to our attention is a Window-Eyes
user! Since then we have worked on making the product 100% keyboard use,
we have a 'special code' that changes any 'images' to 'check/uncheck' so
anyone using a screen reader can easily understand what is happening,
plus other things like labels and dialogue boxes being readable.
We know we are not 100% perfect, but then what program is? We have done
what we have done because we listen to our clients. Please have a look
at our product on www.accomplishglobal.com. You can download a trial
version and have a play. You can email me and I will answer your
questions. We cannot provide everything to everyone, but if it will
benefit our users across the board, and we can do it - we will.
There will always be companies out there that care, and those that
don't. Way waste your valuable time on those companies that don't care,
when you could work with companies that are really trying to make a
difference, please give us a shot. If you don't like our product, come
back to me and tell me why! If you don't tell us, we will never know and
therefore cannot make any changes.
Please help us help you!
Regards Raewyn Whisker Account Manager Accomplish Limited
Phone: +64 9 571 4560 X 715
Email: raewyn.whisker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Website: www.accomplishglobal.com
Skype: raewyn.whisker
From: Solomon Mekonnen <solomoon@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: Pat Ferguson <pat.ferguson328@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Quicken 2010
AT the risk of sounding like a truly broken record, let me briefly
grab your attentions once again. Thank you so much to all who
honored my request and sent message to Mark at Intuit. However, such
accessibility issues raised by Pat could be addressed effectively if
we bring our voices together. Like the accessibility challenge I
recently raised regarding TurboTax, the same point can be
emphatically stated about Quicken or QuickBooks. My company uses
QuickBooks. But because of accessibility issues, I am at the mercy
of my colleagues working under my supervision. Some of us seem to be
less moved by such issues unless it is something we personally
need. There are individual needs an preferences. But then again,
there is a world of marketplace ideas which requires a more conserted
action than an individual voice. Let us flood Intuit with
accessibility requests regarding all of its products whether or not
it is relevant to individual use.
Can we? What would it take to convince fellow blind and visually
impaired persons to reach beyond individual interest and make a
collective, sensible, and audible noise?
Best regards
Solomon.
At 01:16 PM 8/7/2010, you wrote:
Hi David and Everyone,
We have decided to go with QuickBooks Pro, I think instead of Quicken.
Whatever the latest version is.
I do hope they make it accessible very soon.
Thanks much.
Pat Ferguson
At 12:07 PM 8/7/2010, you wrote:
Hello,
I was under the impression that the newer version of Quicken
were accessible out of the box as there are no set files for
them. I am finding that this program is extremely difficult to
use. Does anyone have suggestions on how to best use this product?
Sincerely,
David Gerry
Boston, Massachusetts USA
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