Dave, I have Office 2003 installed, sp 3. I only installed Word and Excel. But I am really only using Word so far. I have never learned to use Excel. I keep meaning to. Is there an issue in particular you want to alert me about? Rik From: Farfar Carlson Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 12:42 PM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: JFW 12.1158 and automatic update Rick, Use Excel and let us know. Exactly what version is now installed on your computer? Dave Composed on a Dell Latitude 630 in the general vicinity of my Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Francisco Bay Area. ----- Original Message ----- From: Rik James To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 11:38 Subject: [Bulk] Re: JFW 12.5 and automatic update Hi this is Rik, who had initiated this thread earlier this week. I did not get an email. but I did have the pop that said the update was available. I sort of took a deep breath, since some on this list had warned about it. But I did it. The update was successful, and I rebooted as was suggested upon completion. So far, I have not had any problems. So if you could, David, maybe tell me and others what types of things to be watching for. I am using Windows 7 Home Premium operating system on a Dell xps studio desktop pc. I do not know what is new with this upgrade. I have not yet updated to IE 9, but I think I might like to try it. I am still quite puzzled half the time with ribbons and miss the old regular menus. I am using Windows Live Mail 2011, version 15 something. I copied my xp version of wordpad and am enjoying using my old menus with that, so far no problems that way. And I have my old Office 2003 programs running okay on this system. Thanks. And thanks to those who suggested keyboad shortcuts to check the version of JAWS. Those 3-finger commands get me hog tied sometimes. But I was able to do it, and it worked. One thing I might mention that seems inconsistent with JAWS. I got very comfortable habitually reading text by navigating paragraph by paragraph using CTRL + UP or DOWN arrow. Quite often these days it seems that command will not work. That is the case over a wide variety of text formats, it seems. Any ideas on this would be helpful. Thanks. Rik From: David Hardingham Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 11:14 AM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: JFW 12.5 and automatic update Hi Rick and all, I received an e mail from FS yesterday asking me to download from a link they provided for the latest upgrade to jfw 12 plus.. I did so and it totally screwed up my computer trying to use the upgrade. FS is aware of this problem and they said if you want to upgrade use their web site instead of the link in their e mail. I had to reinstall jaws and that fixed the issue. David From: Rik James Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 3:33 PM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: JFW 12.5 and automatic update I have been watching my JAWS 12 check for updates by way of the help menu. and so for it has not come up. I am using JAWS version 12.5.25 on my Windows 7 Home Premium machine. It seems to work pretty well. This version is what is listed on About JAWS. Perhaps the update happened automatically? Or should I say, is this the most recent version? Thanks. Rik