It is worth looking at IE to see what toolbars you've got checked. I had a squidge at mine and found stuff I didn't know about, realplayer, askgeeves... I unchecked some of this and now I can use the file menu alt key and tab across through the other menus, a thing I had lost the ability to do. Tom -- To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx