[jawsscripts] Re: setting a frame on a temporary disappearing window
- From: "Geoff Chapman" <gch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 02:54:11 +1000
Hi Jason. I wannted to answer these questions of yours better, but I am way
behind in my emails! I will try and get to it though over the next couple
days. though I don't have an answer to one of your questions, which I'm
certainly reminding the pro scripters out here to comment upon, for I too
have often wondered this. and that is, how to capture details of a window
that is only very temporary popup in nature?
for question 2 though, if you feel the jaws cursor is, "stuck," in it's
traversal,
and should move down further,
try using alt+shift+down Arrow, to force it over the boarder of a window or
toolTip event which might be causing it to get, "stuck."
this often happens, and it can be rather annoying to get past when it does.
I too am not a full on real scripter, so cannot answer your other questions
properly really, though I can tell you there is a way of setting a frame
upon whatever jaws may, think, is a whole window, using the doubleClick of
control+shift+LeftBracket. But, depending on when the snapShot is taken, and
whether your new Text really is contained in a control which technically
truly, is, a window, can both effect whether trying this will bring the
desired outcome. it might, for example, just set the frame upon the whole
size of the whole application window, which of course will not be at all
what you want.
People like Doug though, who've scripted chat clients like skype, will have
a huge amount of ways no doubt, of grabbing text written to the screen in
far more useful ways than the frames approach will probably allow. although
for newby scripters like you and me, I realize frames approach is the first
port of call we can jump to. to get anything auto speaking anywhere.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jason Fayre" <jfayre@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 1:33 AM
Subject: [jawsscripts] setting a frame on a temporary window
> Hello everyone,
> I am currently working with a game called "Smugglers 4". For those of
> you who haven't heard of it, it is a Science Fiction strategy game.
> The very cool thing is that the author is attempting to make this game
> accessible to blind users. It is still a work in progress, but it is
> coming along. Currently, you need to use the JAWS cursor almost
> exclusively to navigate this game.
>
> If anyone with a lot more experience at JAWS scripting than me could
> download the demo of this game and take a look at it, that would be
> great. I am not looking for someone to do the scripting work, just some
> nudges in the right direction.
> the website to download the demo is:
> http://www.nielsbauergames.com
>
> I am thinking of trying to script some parts of this game that are not
> quite speaking correctly yet. I have the following questions:
> 1. On the Combat screen of this game, a short status message pops up
> near the top of the screen whenever an event happens. For example, when
> you fire at a ship, it tells you if you hit them or not. This message
> is only displayed for around 3-4 seconds. Is there any way to freeze
> the application so I can get an idea of the dimentions of this window so
> I can set a frame on it? Right now, as soon as I get the JAWS cursor to
> the text, it disappears.
>
>
> 2. Sometimes, JAWS will not let me move the JAWS cursor to certain
> areas of the screen, even though I know there is text there. This
> usually happens if I am moving down the screen. The JAWS cursor will
> just stop at a certain point.
>
> 3. This is probably a very newbie question, but... As a totally blind
> person, how do you know the exact dimentions of a window to set a
> frame? You can set it based on the text that is in it, but if the
> amount of text changes, your frame will not read everything.
>
> I can probably use Hot Spot Clicker for a lot of what I want to do.
> There are a lot of buttons that need to be clicked, but there are
> currently no hotkeys for them. The author has said he will look into
> doing this.
>
> Any help would be apreciated!
>
>
>
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