Okay, I have a situation here where I have a window that its called thtml. No amount of classing works on it. The cursor is an arrow, but the arrows do not move while in the winodw to navigate its text. So, I need to get the text from that window and read it. The OSM works, since I can read the text, but the only way I can get any text is with unrestricted text. There are a few possibilities I have explored, copy to clipboard comes to mind, but I want to know if there are other ways using ... oh say object commands? I want to be able to ultimately read the window using arrows and the like. If posible turn it into a window like the one in thundrbird where links are available for clickingk, but even if not, just so that I can parambulate the text with the arrows would be nice. So, How do I grab the text from said window? It does have its own control id, so that is nice, and it does not seem to change. But then how do I parse it and set it as a virtual buffer instance? Thanks to all who contribute, but a lot of this documentation is lacking wel... documentation, Even though I am poking an prodding, at lot of the stuff is like finding alin metals. So thanks to you all who know what is up and share with us. D C __________ Visit and contribute to The JAWS Script Repository http://jawsscripts.com View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts