I don't remember the name of this tool, but I do know there's a tool out there similar in scope and/or function to the Window-Eyes tool which will write a report containing information about a window and its descendeants, and if you run this thing from the main window of an application, you can get as near-perfect a view of the window tree as is possible to get. I want this so that I can find some hidden controls which don't show up in the JAWS Utility Mode window, but which are definite controls because sighted people can use a real mouse to click them, and when they do, JAWS says things like "button" when they are activated, so it is my aim to find them and script their activation by forcing focus to them some way somehow. Thanks in advance. __________� View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts