[jawsscripts] Re: Issues when scripting for 64-bit Windows versions
- From: "Donald Marang" <donald.marang@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 18:15:41 -0500
Thanks Jamal. I too do not have a 64 bit system to use for this purpose. I
will be upgrading to Windows 7 soon, but had only planned a 32 bit upgrade
since I only have 2 GB on this computer. Are there many incompatibilities
using 64 bit? I hear Flash is surprisingly not available for 64 bit IE, and
needs to be run in a 32 bit version of IE. With so little memory, is there
any advantages to 64 bit?
I will look forward to a new rebuild of JSX. Let me know if there is
anything I can do to help.
Don Marang
----- Original Message -----
From: <empower@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 1:30 PM
Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Issues when scripting for 64-bit Windows versions
> Hi Donald and others,
> Several months back, I attempted changes for 64-compatibility of JSX,
> without success. I do not have a 64-bit (or Windows 7) machine to test
> with, so debugging this is difficult. JSX is a 32-bit program written
> in the WinBatch language from
> http://WinBatch.com
> It is open source, so if anyone wants to try to fix the problem using a
> demo WinBatch interpreter, feel free. I know it is difficult to debug
> someone else's code though -- I am just making developers aware of that
> option.
>
> I just upgraded to the latest WinBatch which says it includes some
> 64-bit registry and Windows 7 fixes. I'll try recompiling JSX in the
> next week or so and post a version for feedback. WinBatch apparently
> is capable of reading the 64-bit view of the registry from a 32-bit
> process, so I have some hope of resolving this eventually.
>
> I don't think the Inno Setup adjustments would make enough of a difference
> in this
> case because it is WinBatch rather than Inno Setup code that looks for
> JAWS-related paths in the registry.
>
> Jamal
>
> On Sat, 21 Nov 2009, Donald Marang
> wrote:
>
>> Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 11:45:25 -0500
>> From: Donald Marang <donald.marang@xxxxxxxxx>
>> Reply-To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Issues when scripting for 64-bit Windows
>> versions
>>
>> Jamal, has the JAWS Script Exchange (JSX) application been changed to
>> address this issue to resolve installing scripts on a 64 bit system in
>> general? Are there additional steps required that I may not be
>> performing?
>>
>> Thanks Doug for verifying most of my assumptions and that I understood
>> your
>> previous message.
>>
>> Don Marang
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Doug Lee" <doug.lee@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 10:26 AM
>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Issues when scripting for 64-bit Windows
>> versions
>>
>>
>>> You have the right line of code and in the right ISS section, but I
>>> can't tell you about how JSX puts things together from there. You do
>>> need to rebuild your exe file(s) after making that change though.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 03:16:11PM -0500, Donald Marang wrote:
>>> Hi Doug,
>>>
>>> I have several scripts which I use JSX to package for distribution. I
>>> currently do not have access to a 64 bit computer, but I wanted to
>>> create
>>> my
>>> JSX packages so they would work on 64 bit systems as well. I added the
>>> following line you previously suggested toward the bottom of the [Setup]
>>> section of my Scripts.iss file within the C:\JSX directory.
>>> ArchitecturesInstallIn64BitMode=x64 ia64
>>>
>>> I am told this is not working. Previously, the only changes I have made
>>> to
>>> this file has been to set constants for version, developer, copyright,
>>> and
>>> so on. I have had to only edit this file to make it use these
>>> constants.
>>> Is this the correct file to update for 64 bit? Does the placement
>>> within
>>> the section matter? Are there more steps required, such as compiling?
>>> Is
>>> a
>>> new version of JSX required that has made this change, compiled, and
>>> redistributed?
>>>
>>> Clearly, I am missing something here. Since I can not test the 64 bit
>>> installer for our VMware scripts, Chris Hallsworth will test it out on
>>> his
>>> Windows 7 64 bit system.
>>>
>>> Don Marang
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Doug Lee" <doug.lee@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 3:30 PM
>>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Issues when scripting for 64-bit Windows versions
>>>
>>>
>>>> This is probably old news to some out there, but in case not...
>>>>
>>>> I have spent this week working out a few issues with JAWS scripts on
>>>> 64-bit Windows versions. One issue I ran into was that Inno Setup
>>>> installers for such scripts could not find the JAWS registry entries
>>>> indicating where to install scripts for the various compatible JAWS
>>>> versions on a 64-bit machine.
>>>>
>>>> In summary, it turns out that you have to add something like the
>>>> following line to the [Setup] section of your .iss file:
>>>>
>>>> ArchitecturesInstallIn64BitMode=x64 ia64
>>>>
>>>> Without that line, Inno Setup will always have the installer run in
>>>> 32-bit mode. This is a problem on a 64-bit Windows version because
>>>> JAWS itself, being a 64-bit process there, will not list itself in the
>>>> 32-bit version of the system registry. For an Inno Setup installer to
>>>> find the registry entries for JAWS, it has to run in 64-bit mode and
>>>> use the 64-bit version of the registry. (I suppose it might be
>>>> possible to access the 64-bit version of the registry from a 32-bit
>>>> process, but this method of solving the problem seems easier than
>>>> working that out in a way that doesn't break compatibility with 32-bit
>>>> Windows versions.)
>>>>
>>>> Another issue I encountered was that some objects that exist on 32-bit
>>>> Windows do not exist on 64-bit Windows. Most prevalent in my work
>>>> among these is the MSScriptControl.ScriptControl object, which comes
>>>> from c:\windows\system32\MSScript.ocx. According to my research,
>>>> there is no 64-bit version of this object available or planned by
>>>> Microsoft. I doubt many scripters have used this, but I have on a few
>>>> occasions. Since Microsoft encouraged dynamic scripting of this sort
>>>> for years, I was quite stunned to discover that they are apparently
>>>> dropping support for this one.
>>>>
>>>> Any further input from JAWS scripters working with 64-bit Windows
>>>> versions is welcome indeed.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Doug Lee, Senior Accessibility Programmer
>>>> SSB BART Group - Accessibility-on-Demand
>>>> mailto:doug.lee@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://www.ssbbartgroup.com
>>>> "While they were saying among themselves it cannot be done,
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