[jaws-uk] Re: tip on basic navigation with ie6 and jfw7

Marie,

This is usually because the page which has come up when you clicked on the 
link, also contains all the links at the top that the last one did.  Most WWW 
sites now have a standardised set of links at the top which are the same for 
whichever page within the site you're looking at.  The only difference between 
the page where you originally clicked the link, and the page you got to after 
you clicked the link, can be a small chunk of text at what JAWS thinks is the 
bottom of the page, which was the text you actually wanted to read.  A good 
example of this is the BBC site, which has loads of links at the top, which you 
can skip over by clicking on the "skip to main content" link.

A very small number of sites (very often those which have been designed to be 
easy to read with screen readers) still display only the text you want to read, 
without all the standard links at the top.

The way to get around this problem to some extent is to look out for these 
Sskip to main content" links, or to see if there are any headings on the page 
which sometimes make it easier to navigate.  

Once JAWS has confirmed by reading the title bar of the new page, that the page 
has loaded properly, I find the best bet is to stop JAWS from automatically 
reading the whole page, and use the various navigation keys in JAWS to find the 
text that you're looking for.  H for headings M for frames etc. or to use the 
"skip" link.

Hope this helps

Tim Pennick

-----Original Message-----
From: jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Marie Baisez
Sent: 25 October 2005 14:32
To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [jaws-uk] tip on basic navigation with ie6 and jfw7


Hi all,
Everytime a new guise of the shark comes out I expect that the frustrating 
quirk I find it shows when using  i e will be a thing of the past.
But it stil behaves in the same way for me so, now, I'm starting to think it 
must be me who is not using the prog correctly.
Let me explain:
When I go on a site, Jfw nicely reads the progress bar telling me things are 
happening. I like that.
Then it reads the title of the site, and proceeds to read the list of links 
displayed.
When I find a link I'm interested in, I press enter. Jfw stops reading, 
reads the progress bar again until it reaches 100 per cent.
Veryy good, at least it keeps me in the picture.
Then, instead of taking me to the link I've selected, it starts reading 
again from the top of the screen, passing the link I selected saying, quite 
rightly, visited link, and carries on reading to the bottom where the 
copyright information usually is and then, at last,reads my selected link.
This happens even if I activate the link from the links list, if I press 
enter or the spacebar when hearing the link being read.
There must be a keystroke to take me directly to a selected link 
straightaway.
Should I use the tab key to move to a link while on the link list rather 
than tab to activate it?
Is the selected link displayed in another part of the screen? should I use 
ctrl+tab or another key combination to get there?
I always make sure the window is maximized, don't make any difference even 
when I check that it is so.
This happens on all the site I visit, except Tom Lorimer's. There, when I 
press enter on a link, Jaws goes straight to it. Why can't it be the same 
everywhere else?
This is such a basic inconvenience that I'm sure it must have been ironed 
out by now, I have not paid enough attention I suppose.
Please, all of you out there who have the shark eating out of your hand, 
tell me all!
I've trained the beast to do quite a bit for me but would like to coax it to 
do a little more.
Please don't tell me it needs a few grams of the best caviar everyday, 
[smile!], my moderate income couldn't stretch to that!, mind you, keeping up 
with MSA must be almost as expensive I guess.

Thanks in advance for your help.

Cheers now

Marie

p.s I use v.7, ie6 and win-xp home edition 



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