Well have done all that has been suggested but on the desktop the Time setting will not hold at all. It will in sent List. the laptop is not problem. Today a workman came to fix a door. He knows nothing of screen readers of course, uses Virgin and webmail and is now waiting for Talk talk He looks at the screen. says "You have not got a full screen ,picks up mouse for a second put he says top right hand corner and hey Presto a full Screen, just like that. I show him the key strokes the pixile points, he thinks they are not relevant. Anyway he checks I have full screen Ok I have a bite to eat and it now does not show time and year again. I have done Alt space bar and X as well. There is something cockeyed in this as regardless of who does it and how it does not hold. Now please can you tell me the relevance anyway of the Pixile settings? Have been given 110 115 and 200 , regardless it will not hold. Using Xp Jaws 7. O.E 6 and Lunar the latter mainly to invert colour of screen. On laptop all same software and no problem so any ideas please. How to make it stick Dorot I am sending this from laptop.hy. ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq