[jaws-uk] Re: Gates Signs Deal On Software For The Blind

  • From: "Michael Brown" <michael.brown222@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2004 17:30:49 -0000

Hi Nigel,

How do you get to to No Mail to switch this on if you are going away?

Cheers,

Michael.


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Nigel 
  To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004 7:04 PM
  Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Gates Signs Deal On Software For The Blind


  Hi Jane,
  I take it you are going no mail while you are away?  Just say hi when you get 
back after you have turned no mail off.  Or of course you can just leave it and 
read it all when you get back.

  Hope you have a good holiday,
  Nigel P.S. Did you get my off list mail about Bradford that you were asking 
about?
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Jane Sellers 
    To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004 5:39 PM
    Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Gates Signs Deal On Software For The Blind


    Hi Nigel,
    I knew that you were only joking, and so was I in my reply, you never know 
what may happen! 
    I hope you have a happy and peaceful Christmas and I look forward to 
receiving your mail in the New Year as I have signed off as from Tomorrow until 
the 31st so I shall have to wish you a Happy New Year when I come back on to 
the list what do yo do when you have returned from holiday do you still have to 
put in a message saying returned from holiday ? I am a little bemused by this 
any help appreciated.
    kind regards
    Love
    From
    Jane

      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Nigel 
      To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
      Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004 12:38 PM
      Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Gates Signs Deal On Software For The Blind


      Jane, Don't worry as with the rest of that email I was only joking.  I am 
not really into gambolling!
      Hope you have your computer sorted now?
      Happy Christmas,
      Nigel
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Jane Sellers 
        To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
        Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2004 12:43 AM
        Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Gates Signs Deal On Software For The Blind


        Hi Nigel,
        I feel i have to reply to you about this, no i am not emigrating just 
yet. But I am going to Spain for 10 days and yes it was a really interesting 
article, I had been drawn to the attrention of this by RNIB 's Lorraine Brown 
who is a emplioyment person at Judd Street so i knew a little about the 
organisation but it would be nice to go and have a look on their web page and 
if anyone has the url to the spanish association it would be interesting to see 
if their mobil phone called Oasis is on the site although that is another 
matter.
        all the best for Christmas and the new year 
        all the best
        from
        Jane 
          ----- Original Message ----- 
          From: Nigel 
          To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
          Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2004 12:22 PM
          Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Gates Signs Deal On Software For The Blind


          Thanks for this Barry.  This explains why Jane has gone off to Spain 
for ten days, did she say anything about emigrating while she was there?

          It sounds like we could learn a lot from this organisation, even if 
we aren't a nation of  gambolling addicts.  Now what's the URL for that 
Ladbrokes site again?  I want to put a ten a on "Dead Dog" in the three thirty 
at New Market.

          Nigel
            ----- Original Message ----- 
            From: Barry 
            To: Jaws list 
            Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2004 7:09 AM
            Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Gates Signs Deal On Software For The Blind


            Do you know why Bill Gates is developing the software in Spain? It 
might have something to do with the Spanish association for the blind running a 
national  lottery and, therefore, being one of the richest companies in Spain.  
Bill Gates may give a lot to charity but he is still a business man and has to 
look after his shareholders.

            Here's an article from the Spanish National Federation of the Blind 
that I wish all governments would adopt :

             

            SPANISH BLIND GROUP THRIVES ON LARGESS OF LOTTERY

             

            By: CIARAN GILES

             

            Editor?s Note: The following article is re-printed from the 
Associated Press, May 29, 2000.

             

            MADRID, Spain (AP) - The Spanish Civil War killed and maimed 
hundreds of thousands of soldiers and civilians and left much of Spain in 
ruins. Yet, for one

            disabled group, the war's legacy has had advantages.

             

            No one knows how many people were blinded in the 1936-39 conflict, 
but eager to rid himself of the problem, dictator Francisco Franco ordered them 
to form

            a national organization and take care of themselves. To encourage 
them, he granted the right to create a national lottery. Six decades later, 
with Franco

            long dead and democracy fully restored, the National Organization 
of Blind Spaniards has blossomed into one of Spain's most successful businesses 
and one

            of the world's most dynamic disabled support groups.

             

            "There's no doubt about it, if you're going to be blind, be 
Spanish," quips Miguel Callejas, a blind man who has sold lottery tickets the 
past 28 years

            for ONCE, the Spanish acronym for the organization. Lottery 
drawings, staged every day except Saturday, bring in the equivalent of dlrs 2.3 
billion a year.

            Profits enable the organization to guarantee employment for nearly 
all of Spain's 60,000 blind.

             

            "I know of nothing even comparable to the ONCE in the entire 
world," said Edwin Vaughan, a blind sociology professor at the University of 
Missouri who has

            studied how countries view and treat blind people. "In nearly every 
country, the United States included, blindness is associated with begging and 
the blind

            are virtually totally dependent on welfare assistance with 
employment opportunities severely limited," he said. "In Spain, it's the 
opposite."

             

            In the United States, unemployment among the blind rarely falls 
below 70 percent, while in Spain, it's hardly ever above 5 percent, Vaughan 
said. The European

            Blind Union says its latest figures, for 1995, showed that out of 
41,000 blind adults available for work in Germany, only 9,000 had a job. In 
France, only

            7,000 of the 18,000 working age blind were employed. ONCE receives 
no government subsidy and its board is independent and elected every four years 
by its

            members, all blind or sight-impaired. The growth of the lottery 
allowed ONCE to gradually build up a business empire with stakes in everything 
from hotels

            to construction. In the 1980s, it branched into the media, founding 
a private national TV channel, a national daily newspaper and a popular radio 
chain.

            But sensing expansion was tarnishing its more-important image as a 
caring group for the disabled, ONCE sold off its principal media holdings -- at 
a profit.

            Nowadays, ONCE is as Spanish as bullfighting, sidewalk cafes and 
soccer. Vendors wearing dark glasses and carrying canes pace the streets in 
nearly every

            village, barking out, "Lucky numbers for today!" In the cities, 
single vendors sit in enclosed ONCE kiosks, selling tickets through glass 
windows.

             

            The lottery has thrived not only because Spaniards love to gamble, 
but because of clever marketing and slick advertising. Midweek coupons sell for 
200 pesetas

            (dlrs 1.25), offering a chance at 500 daily top prizes of 5 million 
pesetas (dlrs 33,000) each and thousands of smaller winnings. The No. 1 prize 
for the

            Sunday lottery pays dlrs 58,000 a year for 25 years.

             

            Totally independent since 1982, ONCE plows its profits into serving 
its members. It runs Europe's biggest guide dog school, a factory whose 
products include

            canes, children's Braille sets and portable speech-activated 
computers and social rehabilitation centers. It also works with other 
companies, such as Microsoft,

            to develop systems and technical innovations for the blind. On a 
more public level, ONCE runs a touch-and-feel art Museum for the Blind. In 
1998, it organized

            an international competition in Madrid for blind athletes. In 
recent years, ONCE has supported projects for the blind abroad, including in 
several Latin

            American nations, notably Chile and Argentina.

             

            ONCE estimates there are 150 million blind people in the world, but 
many poor countries do not keep records on who and where they are. "The ONCE's 
idea

            is that the blind should care for the blind. In most countries, 
nobody looks after them at all," said Rafael Mondaca, the organization's 
director of international

            relations. ONCE recognizes that even though it is private, it has a 
privileged position and the government could withdraw its lottery rights or 
grant licenses

            to other causes. "Fortunately, it wouldn't make business sense for 
the Spanish government to do so because it knows that if ONCE crumbled it would 
then

            be responsible for looking after the blind itself," said Pedro 
Zurrita, who heads the World Blind Organization, which is based in Madrid.

             

            "For the Civil War authorities, it was a load off their mind," he 
said. "Back then no one thought the lottery was ever going to be so successful. 
It's unlikely

            that any government would do it today."

             

            Barry H



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