I've found another minor bug in the RISC OS 5.12 filer (I can't remember it being present in 5.11). If you change the desktop font size to anything smaller than 12pt (I've set mine to 7pt), then click MENU over a file in a directory window, the resulting Filer menu is positioned too far to the left, which sometimes results in the Display or File '' sub-menu opening automatically. I suspect something is trying to calculate the centre position for the menu but failing when smaller font sizes are in use. To change the desktop font size, I've been using my !Misc Setup plugin (www.vigay.com/software/miscsetup.html) but you can also use the *Set Wimp$FontSize 112 command. 112 is pt size * 16 - ie. I've got a 7pt size. Thought I'd point it out in case there's time to squeeze a fix into ROS 5.13 :-) Paul -- www.vigay.com Computer & I.T.Consultant - Web Designer - Technology Guru Truth Seeker - Metaphysical Advisor - Paranormal Investigator Occasional Philosopher and all round good guy :-) (list replies: Email address IS genuine, include -nospam) At once. You will not hesitate, you will not consider, you will not lie. --- To alter your preferences or leave the group, visit //www.freelists.org/list/iyonix-support Other info via //www.freelists.org/webpage/iyonix-support