I'm just bitter after my OSX betrayed me. Thomas W Shinder, M.D. Site: www.isaserver.org Blog: http://blogs.isaserver.org/shinder/ Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7 MVP -- ISA Firewalls > -----Original Message----- > From: isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Thor > (Hammer of God) > Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 8:56 PM > To: isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [isapros] Re: Exch permissions Q > > I *use* each one several hours a piece every day of the week. > (I'm a Vista > Beta-boy too ;) It all depends on what you want to get done. From a > "Mac-to-Mac" standpoint, there are things like "Apple Remote > Desktop" that > make Remote Desktop look like PCAnywhereIII. I really wish > there was an XP > client for ARD rather than just VNC... There are many things > about OSX that > I really, really like -- but those are all from a "personal" > user experience > standpoint. That being said, running Vista on my dual, > dual-core opteron > 2.8's with dual Geforce 7800GTX's in SLI mode is the "Ass Meringue." > > Visual Studio 2005 with SQL2005 is superfly. > > It's all what you want to do, and how you want to do it. > Right tool for the > right job. > > t > > > On 7/17/06 6:42 PM, "Thomas W Shinder" <tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx> > spoketh to > all: > > > Hey, I've seen both the OSX hork interface and the Vista > interface (I'm > > not brave enough to run it, but Debi is running it full > time) and I'd > > say that the OSX UI is Windows 3.1 compared to the Vista > UI. Plus, you > > can actually get read work done in Vista, which you can't > do on a fanboy > > Crapple box. > > > > Thomas W Shinder, M.D. > > Site: www.isaserver.org > > Blog: http://blogs.isaserver.org/shinder/ > > Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7 > > MVP -- ISA Firewalls > > > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >> [mailto:isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Thor > >> (Hammer of God) > >> Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 8:36 PM > >> To: isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >> Subject: [isapros] Re: Exch permissions Q > >> > >> It's what Microsoft modeled "Vista" after. <bfg> > >> > >> t > >> > >> > >> On 7/17/06 6:32 PM, "Thomas W Shinder" <tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx> > >> spoketh to > >> all: > >> > >>> What's an OSX? > >>> > >>> Thomas W Shinder, M.D. > >>> Site: www.isaserver.org > >>> Blog: http://blogs.isaserver.org/shinder/ > >>> Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7 > >>> MVP -- ISA Firewalls > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>> From: isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>>> [mailto:isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Thor > >>>> (Hammer of God) > >>>> Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 8:28 PM > >>>> To: isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>>> Subject: [isapros] Re: Exch permissions Q > >>>> > >>>> No log on locally anymore. He actually limited the machine > >>>> she could log on > >>>> from.... > >>>> > >>>> T > >>>> > >>>> Sent from Entourage on OSX via VNC window from my XP box that > >>>> I'm RDP'd into > >>>> from my new Dell 2650's that I'm putting in the freaking > >> laundry room. > >>>> (Aincha jealous?) :-pppppppp > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> t > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On 7/17/06 6:22 PM, "Greg Mulholland" > >>>> <gmulholland@xxxxxxxxxxxx> spoketh to > >>>> all: > >>>> > >>>>> so it was log on locally then? > >>>>> > >>>>> btw office 12 is good, vista i'll wait and see, so no not > >> really :) > >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>>>> From: "Jim Harrison" <Jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > >>>>> To: <isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 11:17 AM > >>>>> Subject: [isapros] Re: Exch permissions Q > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>> Got it. > >>>>>> I had limited her machine logon rights to one machine. > >>>>>> Once I gave her "all machines", she could get her mail. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I guess this also stops impersonation <sigh>. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Jim Harrison > >>>>>> jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx > >>>>>> www.isatools.org > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Sent using Vista Beta 2 and Office 12 Beta 2 (aincha jealous?) > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>>>> From: isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>>> [mailto:isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > >>>>>> On Behalf Of Thomas W Shinder > >>>>>> Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 6:14 PM > >>>>>> To: isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>>>>> Subject: [isapros] Re: Exch permissions Q > >>>>>> > >>>>>> OK, got it. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Anything in the Event Viewer around the time you made > the change? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Thomas W Shinder, M.D. > >>>>>> Site: www.isaserver.org > >>>>>> Blog: http://blogs.isaserver.org/shinder/ > >>>>>> Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7 > >>>>>> MVP -- ISA Firewalls > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>>>>> From: isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>>>>>> [mailto:isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of > Jim Harrison > >>>>>>> Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 8:08 PM > >>>>>>> To: isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>>>>>> Subject: [isapros] Re: Exch permissions Q > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Exchange; it don't matter if ISA is involved or not. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Jim Harrison > >>>>>>> jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx > >>>>>>> www.isatools.org > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Sent using Vista Beta 2 and Office 12 Beta 2 (aincha > jealous?) > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>>>>> From: isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>>>>>> [mailto:isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > >>>>>>> On Behalf Of Thomas W Shinder > >>>>>>> Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 5:03 PM > >>>>>>> To: isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>>>>>> Subject: [isapros] Re: Exch permissions Q > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I'm just trying to figure out if it's an Exchange thang > >> or an ISA > >>>>>>> thang. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Thomas W Shinder, M.D. > >>>>>>> Site: www.isaserver.org > >>>>>>> Blog: http://blogs.isaserver.org/shinder/ > >>>>>>> Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7 > >>>>>>> MVP -- ISA Firewalls > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>>>>>> From: isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>>>>>>> [mailto:isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of > Jim Harrison > >>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 7:01 PM > >>>>>>>> To: isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>>>>>>> Subject: [isapros] Re: Exch permissions Q > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> None of those deal in single-user problems. > >>>>>>>> Neither me nor my wife have any problems with OWA - only my > >>>>>>>> daughter... > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------- > >>>>>>>> Jim Harrison > >>>>>>>> MCP(NT4, W2K), A+, Network+, PCG > >>>>>>>> http://isaserver.org/Jim_Harrison/ > >>>>>>>> http://isatools.org > >>>>>>>> Read the help / books / articles! > >>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------- > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>>>>>> From: isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>>>>>>> [mailto:isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Greg > >>>> Mulholland > >>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 16:33 > >>>>>>>> To: isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>>>>>>> Subject: [isapros] Re: Exch permissions Q > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> seen this one jim? > >>>>>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/327843/en-us > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>>>>>>> From: "Thomas W Shinder" <tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx> > >>>>>>>> To: <isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 9:29 AM > >>>>>>>> Subject: [isapros] Re: Exch permissions Q > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> OK, it's not working internally and externally, and you've > >>>>>>> configured > >>>>>>>> a split DNS so that internal users aren't looping back > >>>> through the > >>>>>>>> external interface so that internal users are using > >> Direct Access > >>>>>>>> (just so that we remove the ISA firewall from the equation). > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Thomas W Shinder, M.D. > >>>>>>>> Site: www.isaserver.org > >>>>>>>> Blog: http://blogs.isaserver.org/shinder/ > >>>>>>>> Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7 > >>>>>>>> MVP -- ISA Firewalls > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>>>>>>> From: isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>>>>>>>> [mailto:isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of > >> Jim Harrison > >>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 6:18 PM > >>>>>>>>> To: isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>>>>>>>> Subject: [isapros] Re: Exch permissions Q > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> That's what I thought I did, but checking Exch > >> permissions, it's > >>>>>>>>> enabled. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------- > >>>>>>>>> Jim Harrison > >>>>>>>>> MCP(NT4, W2K), A+, Network+, PCG > >>>>>>>>> http://isaserver.org/Jim_Harrison/ > >>>>>>>>> http://isatools.org > >>>>>>>>> Read the help / books / articles! > >>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------- > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>>>>>>> From: isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>>>>>>>> [mailto:isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Thomas > >>>>>>> W Shinder > >>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 16:11 > >>>>>>>>> To: isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>>>>>>>> Subject: [isapros] Re: Exch permissions Q > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> OK, you might have turned off her account's access to OWA. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Thomas W Shinder, M.D. > >>>>>>>>> Site: www.isaserver.org > >>>>>>>>> Blog: http://blogs.isaserver.org/shinder/ > >>>>>>>>> Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7 > >>>>>>>>> MVP -- ISA Firewalls > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>>>>>>>> From: isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>>>>>>>>> [mailto:isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of > >> Jim Harrison > >>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 6:10 PM > >>>>>>>>>> To: isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>>>>>>>>> Subject: [isapros] Re: Exch permissions Q > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> No; doesn't work from in or out, but MAPI works fine. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------- > >>>>>>>>>> Jim Harrison > >>>>>>>>>> MCP(NT4, W2K), A+, Network+, PCG > >>>>>>>>>> http://isaserver.org/Jim_Harrison/ > >>>>>>>>>> http://isatools.org > >>>>>>>>>> Read the help / books / articles! > >>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------- > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>>>>>>>> From: isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>>>>>>>>> [mailto:isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of > >> Steve Moffat > >>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 15:58 > >>>>>>>>>> To: isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>>>>>>>>> Subject: [isapros] Re: Exch permissions Q > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> She can log in from outlook internally?..did you disable > >>>>>>>>> her mailbox? > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> S > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>>>>>>>> From: isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>>>>>>>>> [mailto:isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of > >> Jim Harrison > >>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 7:06 PM > >>>>>>>>>> To: isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>>>>>>>>> Subject: [isapros] Exch permissions Q > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> My turn to ask... > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> I disabled my daughter's OWA access while she was in > >>>>>>>> school because > >>>>>>>>>> the raging dumba$$3$ in your school let the kids veg on the > >>>>>>>>> Internet > >>>>>>>>>> all freakin' day (different issue). > >>>>>>>>>> Now that she's actually gradumatated, I want to re-enable > >>>>>>>> it, but I > >>>>>>>>>> can't make it work. > >>>>>>>>>> Of course, I don't know what I did, yasilly; or else I > >>>>>>>> wouldn't be > >>>>>>>>>> asking. > >>>>>>>>>> ISA policies allow her to log in, but the OWA page keeps > >>>>>>>>> regurgitating > >>>>>>>>>> "401.1". > >>>>>>>>>> 401.1 is supposed to be "invalid credentials", but > I know the > >>>>>>>>>> username/password are correct. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> I've checked her Exch permissions, and they seem fine > >>>>>>>> (same as mine > >>>>>>>>>> for her mailbox). > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------- > >>>>>>>>>> Jim Harrison > >>>>>>>>>> MCP(NT4, W2K), A+, Network+, PCG > >>>>>>>>>> http://isaserver.org/Jim_Harrison/ > >>>>>>>>>> http://isatools.org > >>>>>>>>>> Read the help / books / articles! > >>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------- > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> All mail to and from this domain is GFI-scanned. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> All mail to and from this domain is GFI-scanned. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> All mail to and from this domain is GFI-scanned. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> All mail to and from this domain is GFI-scanned. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> All mail to and from this domain is GFI-scanned. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> All mail to and from this domain is GFI-scanned. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > >