[isapros] Re: Exch permissions Q

  • From: "Thomas W Shinder" <tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2006 21:00:20 -0500

I'm just bitter after my OSX betrayed me.

Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
Site: www.isaserver.org
Blog: http://blogs.isaserver.org/shinder/
Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7
MVP -- ISA Firewalls

 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> [mailto:isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Thor 
> (Hammer of God)
> Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 8:56 PM
> To: isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [isapros] Re: Exch permissions Q
> 
> I *use* each one several hours a piece every day of the week. 
> (I'm a Vista
> Beta-boy too ;)  It all depends on what you want to get done.  From a
> "Mac-to-Mac" standpoint, there are things like "Apple Remote 
> Desktop" that
> make Remote Desktop look like PCAnywhereIII.  I really wish 
> there was an XP
> client for ARD rather than just VNC...  There are many things 
> about OSX that
> I really, really like -- but those are all from a "personal" 
> user experience
> standpoint.  That being said, running Vista on my dual, 
> dual-core opteron
> 2.8's with dual Geforce 7800GTX's in SLI mode is the "Ass Meringue."
> 
> Visual Studio 2005 with SQL2005 is superfly.
> 
> It's all what you want to do, and how you want to do it.  
> Right tool for the
> right job.
> 
> t
> 
> 
> On 7/17/06 6:42 PM, "Thomas W Shinder" <tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx> 
> spoketh to
> all:
> 
> > Hey, I've seen both the OSX hork interface and the Vista 
> interface (I'm
> > not brave enough to run it, but Debi is running it full 
> time) and I'd
> > say that the OSX UI is Windows 3.1 compared to the Vista 
> UI.  Plus, you
> > can actually get read work done in Vista, which you can't 
> do on a fanboy
> > Crapple box.
> > 
> > Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
> > Site: www.isaserver.org
> > Blog: http://blogs.isaserver.org/shinder/
> > Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7
> > MVP -- ISA Firewalls
> > 
> >  
> > 
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> [mailto:isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Thor
> >> (Hammer of God)
> >> Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 8:36 PM
> >> To: isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> Subject: [isapros] Re: Exch permissions Q
> >> 
> >> It's what Microsoft modeled "Vista" after.  <bfg>
> >> 
> >> t
> >> 
> >> 
> >> On 7/17/06 6:32 PM, "Thomas W Shinder" <tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> spoketh to
> >> all:
> >> 
> >>> What's an OSX? 
> >>> 
> >>> Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
> >>> Site: www.isaserver.org
> >>> Blog: http://blogs.isaserver.org/shinder/
> >>> Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7
> >>> MVP -- ISA Firewalls
> >>> 
> >>>  
> >>> 
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>> [mailto:isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Thor
> >>>> (Hammer of God)
> >>>> Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 8:28 PM
> >>>> To: isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>> Subject: [isapros] Re: Exch permissions Q
> >>>> 
> >>>> No log on locally anymore.  He actually limited the machine
> >>>> she could log on
> >>>> from....
> >>>> 
> >>>> T
> >>>> 
> >>>> Sent from Entourage on OSX via VNC window from my XP box that
> >>>> I'm RDP'd into
> >>>> from my new Dell 2650's that I'm putting in the freaking
> >> laundry room.
> >>>> (Aincha jealous?) :-pppppppp
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> t
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> On 7/17/06 6:22 PM, "Greg Mulholland"
> >>>> <gmulholland@xxxxxxxxxxxx> spoketh to
> >>>> all:
> >>>> 
> >>>>> so it was log on locally then?
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> btw office 12 is good, vista i'll wait and see, so no not
> >> really :)
> >>>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>>> From: "Jim Harrison" <Jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>> To: <isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 11:17 AM
> >>>>> Subject: [isapros] Re: Exch permissions Q
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>>> Got it.
> >>>>>> I had limited her machine logon rights to one machine.
> >>>>>> Once I gave her "all machines", she could get her mail.
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> I guess this also stops impersonation <sigh>.
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> Jim Harrison
> >>>>>> jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>>> www.isatools.org
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> Sent  using Vista Beta 2 and Office 12 Beta 2 (aincha jealous?)
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>> From: isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>> [mailto:isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> >>>>>> On Behalf Of Thomas W Shinder
> >>>>>> Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 6:14 PM
> >>>>>> To: isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>>> Subject: [isapros] Re: Exch permissions Q
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> OK, got it.
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> Anything in the Event Viewer around the time you made 
> the change?
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
> >>>>>> Site: www.isaserver.org
> >>>>>> Blog: http://blogs.isaserver.org/shinder/
> >>>>>> Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7
> >>>>>> MVP -- ISA Firewalls
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>> From: isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>>>> [mailto:isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of 
> Jim Harrison
> >>>>>>> Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 8:08 PM
> >>>>>>> To: isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>>>> Subject: [isapros] Re: Exch permissions Q
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> Exchange; it don't matter if ISA is involved or not.
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> Jim Harrison
> >>>>>>> jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>>>> www.isatools.org
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> Sent  using Vista Beta 2 and Office 12 Beta 2 (aincha 
> jealous?)
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>> From: isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>>>> [mailto:isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> >>>>>>> On Behalf Of Thomas W Shinder
> >>>>>>> Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 5:03 PM
> >>>>>>> To: isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>>>> Subject: [isapros] Re: Exch permissions Q
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> I'm just trying to figure out if it's an Exchange thang
> >> or an ISA
> >>>>>>> thang.
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
> >>>>>>> Site: www.isaserver.org
> >>>>>>> Blog: http://blogs.isaserver.org/shinder/
> >>>>>>> Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7
> >>>>>>> MVP -- ISA Firewalls
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>  
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>>> From: isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>>>>> [mailto:isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of 
> Jim Harrison
> >>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 7:01 PM
> >>>>>>>> To: isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>>>>> Subject: [isapros] Re: Exch permissions Q
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> None of those deal in single-user problems.
> >>>>>>>> Neither me nor my wife have any problems with OWA - only my
> >>>>>>>> daughter...
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>>>>>    Jim Harrison
> >>>>>>>>    MCP(NT4, W2K), A+, Network+, PCG
> >>>>>>>>    http://isaserver.org/Jim_Harrison/
> >>>>>>>>    http://isatools.org
> >>>>>>>>    Read the help / books / articles!
> >>>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>>>>>  
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>>> From: isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>>>>> [mailto:isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Greg
> >>>> Mulholland
> >>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 16:33
> >>>>>>>> To: isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>>>>> Subject: [isapros] Re: Exch permissions Q
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> seen this one jim?
> >>>>>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/327843/en-us
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>>>>>> From: "Thomas W Shinder" <tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>>>>> To: <isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 9:29 AM
> >>>>>>>> Subject: [isapros] Re: Exch permissions Q
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> OK, it's not working internally and externally, and you've
> >>>>>>> configured
> >>>>>>>> a split DNS so that internal users aren't looping back
> >>>> through the
> >>>>>>>> external interface so that internal users are using
> >> Direct Access
> >>>>>>>> (just so that we remove the ISA firewall from the equation).
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
> >>>>>>>> Site: www.isaserver.org
> >>>>>>>> Blog: http://blogs.isaserver.org/shinder/
> >>>>>>>> Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7
> >>>>>>>> MVP -- ISA Firewalls
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>  
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>>>> From: isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>>>>>> [mailto:isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> >> Jim Harrison
> >>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 6:18 PM
> >>>>>>>>> To: isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>>>>>> Subject: [isapros] Re: Exch permissions Q
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>> That's what I thought I did, but checking Exch
> >> permissions, it's
> >>>>>>>>> enabled.
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>>>>>>    Jim Harrison
> >>>>>>>>>    MCP(NT4, W2K), A+, Network+, PCG
> >>>>>>>>>    http://isaserver.org/Jim_Harrison/
> >>>>>>>>>    http://isatools.org
> >>>>>>>>>    Read the help / books / articles!
> >>>>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>>>>>>  
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>>>> From: isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>>>>>> [mailto:isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Thomas
> >>>>>>> W Shinder
> >>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 16:11
> >>>>>>>>> To: isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>>>>>> Subject: [isapros] Re: Exch permissions Q
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>> OK, you might have turned off her account's access to OWA.
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>> Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
> >>>>>>>>> Site: www.isaserver.org
> >>>>>>>>> Blog: http://blogs.isaserver.org/shinder/
> >>>>>>>>> Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7
> >>>>>>>>> MVP -- ISA Firewalls
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>  
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>>>>> From: isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>>>>>>> [mailto:isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> >> Jim Harrison
> >>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 6:10 PM
> >>>>>>>>>> To: isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>>>>>>> Subject: [isapros] Re: Exch permissions Q
> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>> No; doesn't work from in or out, but MAPI works fine.
> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>>>>>>>    Jim Harrison
> >>>>>>>>>>    MCP(NT4, W2K), A+, Network+, PCG
> >>>>>>>>>>    http://isaserver.org/Jim_Harrison/
> >>>>>>>>>>    http://isatools.org
> >>>>>>>>>>    Read the help / books / articles!
> >>>>>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>>>>>>>  
> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>>>>> From: isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>>>>>>> [mailto:isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> >> Steve Moffat
> >>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 15:58
> >>>>>>>>>> To: isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>>>>>>> Subject: [isapros] Re: Exch permissions Q
> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>> She can log in from outlook internally?..did you disable
> >>>>>>>>> her mailbox?
> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>> S
> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>>>>> From: isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>>>>>>> [mailto:isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> >> Jim Harrison
> >>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 7:06 PM
> >>>>>>>>>> To: isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>>>>>>> Subject: [isapros] Exch permissions Q
> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>> My turn to ask...
> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>> I disabled my daughter's OWA access while she was in
> >>>>>>>> school because
> >>>>>>>>>> the raging dumba$$3$ in your school let the kids veg on the
> >>>>>>>>> Internet
> >>>>>>>>>> all freakin' day (different issue).
> >>>>>>>>>> Now that she's actually gradumatated, I want to re-enable
> >>>>>>>> it, but I
> >>>>>>>>>> can't make it work.
> >>>>>>>>>> Of course, I don't know what I did, yasilly; or else I
> >>>>>>>> wouldn't be
> >>>>>>>>>> asking.
> >>>>>>>>>> ISA policies allow her to log in, but the OWA page keeps
> >>>>>>>>> regurgitating
> >>>>>>>>>> "401.1".
> >>>>>>>>>> 401.1 is supposed to be "invalid credentials", but 
> I know the
> >>>>>>>>>> username/password are correct.
> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>> I've checked her Exch permissions, and they seem fine
> >>>>>>>> (same as mine
> >>>>>>>>>> for her mailbox).
> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>>>>>>>    Jim Harrison
> >>>>>>>>>>    MCP(NT4, W2K), A+, Network+, PCG
> >>>>>>>>>>    http://isaserver.org/Jim_Harrison/
> >>>>>>>>>>    http://isatools.org
> >>>>>>>>>>    Read the help / books / articles!
> >>>>>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------
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