[isapros] Re: Exch permissions Q

  • From: "Thor (Hammer of God)" <thor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2006 18:55:48 -0700

I *use* each one several hours a piece every day of the week. (I'm a Vista
Beta-boy too ;)  It all depends on what you want to get done.  From a
"Mac-to-Mac" standpoint, there are things like "Apple Remote Desktop" that
make Remote Desktop look like PCAnywhereIII.  I really wish there was an XP
client for ARD rather than just VNC...  There are many things about OSX that
I really, really like -- but those are all from a "personal" user experience
standpoint.  That being said, running Vista on my dual, dual-core opteron
2.8's with dual Geforce 7800GTX's in SLI mode is the "Ass Meringue."

Visual Studio 2005 with SQL2005 is superfly.

It's all what you want to do, and how you want to do it.  Right tool for the
right job.

t


On 7/17/06 6:42 PM, "Thomas W Shinder" <tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx> spoketh to
all:

> Hey, I've seen both the OSX hork interface and the Vista interface (I'm
> not brave enough to run it, but Debi is running it full time) and I'd
> say that the OSX UI is Windows 3.1 compared to the Vista UI.  Plus, you
> can actually get read work done in Vista, which you can't do on a fanboy
> Crapple box.
> 
> Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
> Site: www.isaserver.org
> Blog: http://blogs.isaserver.org/shinder/
> Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7
> MVP -- ISA Firewalls
> 
>  
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Thor
>> (Hammer of God)
>> Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 8:36 PM
>> To: isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [isapros] Re: Exch permissions Q
>> 
>> It's what Microsoft modeled "Vista" after.  <bfg>
>> 
>> t
>> 
>> 
>> On 7/17/06 6:32 PM, "Thomas W Shinder" <tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> spoketh to
>> all:
>> 
>>> What's an OSX? 
>>> 
>>> Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
>>> Site: www.isaserver.org
>>> Blog: http://blogs.isaserver.org/shinder/
>>> Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7
>>> MVP -- ISA Firewalls
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> [mailto:isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Thor
>>>> (Hammer of God)
>>>> Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 8:28 PM
>>>> To: isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Subject: [isapros] Re: Exch permissions Q
>>>> 
>>>> No log on locally anymore.  He actually limited the machine
>>>> she could log on
>>>> from....
>>>> 
>>>> T
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from Entourage on OSX via VNC window from my XP box that
>>>> I'm RDP'd into
>>>> from my new Dell 2650's that I'm putting in the freaking
>> laundry room.
>>>> (Aincha jealous?) :-pppppppp
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> t
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 7/17/06 6:22 PM, "Greg Mulholland"
>>>> <gmulholland@xxxxxxxxxxxx> spoketh to
>>>> all:
>>>> 
>>>>> so it was log on locally then?
>>>>> 
>>>>> btw office 12 is good, vista i'll wait and see, so no not
>> really :)
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Jim Harrison" <Jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> To: <isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 11:17 AM
>>>>> Subject: [isapros] Re: Exch permissions Q
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Got it.
>>>>>> I had limited her machine logon rights to one machine.
>>>>>> Once I gave her "all machines", she could get her mail.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I guess this also stops impersonation <sigh>.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Jim Harrison
>>>>>> jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> www.isatools.org
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent  using Vista Beta 2 and Office 12 Beta 2 (aincha jealous?)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> [mailto:isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>>>>>> On Behalf Of Thomas W Shinder
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 6:14 PM
>>>>>> To: isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> Subject: [isapros] Re: Exch permissions Q
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> OK, got it.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Anything in the Event Viewer around the time you made the change?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
>>>>>> Site: www.isaserver.org
>>>>>> Blog: http://blogs.isaserver.org/shinder/
>>>>>> Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7
>>>>>> MVP -- ISA Firewalls
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>> [mailto:isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jim Harrison
>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 8:08 PM
>>>>>>> To: isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>> Subject: [isapros] Re: Exch permissions Q
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Exchange; it don't matter if ISA is involved or not.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Jim Harrison
>>>>>>> jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>> www.isatools.org
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Sent  using Vista Beta 2 and Office 12 Beta 2 (aincha jealous?)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>> [mailto:isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>>>>>>> On Behalf Of Thomas W Shinder
>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 5:03 PM
>>>>>>> To: isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>> Subject: [isapros] Re: Exch permissions Q
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I'm just trying to figure out if it's an Exchange thang
>> or an ISA
>>>>>>> thang.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
>>>>>>> Site: www.isaserver.org
>>>>>>> Blog: http://blogs.isaserver.org/shinder/
>>>>>>> Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7
>>>>>>> MVP -- ISA Firewalls
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>> [mailto:isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jim Harrison
>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 7:01 PM
>>>>>>>> To: isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>> Subject: [isapros] Re: Exch permissions Q
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> None of those deal in single-user problems.
>>>>>>>> Neither me nor my wife have any problems with OWA - only my
>>>>>>>> daughter...
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>    Jim Harrison
>>>>>>>>    MCP(NT4, W2K), A+, Network+, PCG
>>>>>>>>    http://isaserver.org/Jim_Harrison/
>>>>>>>>    http://isatools.org
>>>>>>>>    Read the help / books / articles!
>>>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>> [mailto:isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Greg
>>>> Mulholland
>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 16:33
>>>>>>>> To: isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>> Subject: [isapros] Re: Exch permissions Q
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> seen this one jim?
>>>>>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/327843/en-us
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>> From: "Thomas W Shinder" <tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>> To: <isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 9:29 AM
>>>>>>>> Subject: [isapros] Re: Exch permissions Q
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> OK, it's not working internally and externally, and you've
>>>>>>> configured
>>>>>>>> a split DNS so that internal users aren't looping back
>>>> through the
>>>>>>>> external interface so that internal users are using
>> Direct Access
>>>>>>>> (just so that we remove the ISA firewall from the equation).
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
>>>>>>>> Site: www.isaserver.org
>>>>>>>> Blog: http://blogs.isaserver.org/shinder/
>>>>>>>> Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7
>>>>>>>> MVP -- ISA Firewalls
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>> From: isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>> [mailto:isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
>> Jim Harrison
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 6:18 PM
>>>>>>>>> To: isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>> Subject: [isapros] Re: Exch permissions Q
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> That's what I thought I did, but checking Exch
>> permissions, it's
>>>>>>>>> enabled.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>    Jim Harrison
>>>>>>>>>    MCP(NT4, W2K), A+, Network+, PCG
>>>>>>>>>    http://isaserver.org/Jim_Harrison/
>>>>>>>>>    http://isatools.org
>>>>>>>>>    Read the help / books / articles!
>>>>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>> From: isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>> [mailto:isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Thomas
>>>>>>> W Shinder
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 16:11
>>>>>>>>> To: isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>> Subject: [isapros] Re: Exch permissions Q
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> OK, you might have turned off her account's access to OWA.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
>>>>>>>>> Site: www.isaserver.org
>>>>>>>>> Blog: http://blogs.isaserver.org/shinder/
>>>>>>>>> Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7
>>>>>>>>> MVP -- ISA Firewalls
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>> From: isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
>> Jim Harrison
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 6:10 PM
>>>>>>>>>> To: isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [isapros] Re: Exch permissions Q
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> No; doesn't work from in or out, but MAPI works fine.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>    Jim Harrison
>>>>>>>>>>    MCP(NT4, W2K), A+, Network+, PCG
>>>>>>>>>>    http://isaserver.org/Jim_Harrison/
>>>>>>>>>>    http://isatools.org
>>>>>>>>>>    Read the help / books / articles!
>>>>>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>> From: isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
>> Steve Moffat
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 15:58
>>>>>>>>>> To: isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [isapros] Re: Exch permissions Q
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> She can log in from outlook internally?..did you disable
>>>>>>>>> her mailbox?
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> S
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>> From: isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
>> Jim Harrison
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 7:06 PM
>>>>>>>>>> To: isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [isapros] Exch permissions Q
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> My turn to ask...
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I disabled my daughter's OWA access while she was in
>>>>>>>> school because
>>>>>>>>>> the raging dumba$$3$ in your school let the kids veg on the
>>>>>>>>> Internet
>>>>>>>>>> all freakin' day (different issue).
>>>>>>>>>> Now that she's actually gradumatated, I want to re-enable
>>>>>>>> it, but I
>>>>>>>>>> can't make it work.
>>>>>>>>>> Of course, I don't know what I did, yasilly; or else I
>>>>>>>> wouldn't be
>>>>>>>>>> asking.
>>>>>>>>>> ISA policies allow her to log in, but the OWA page keeps
>>>>>>>>> regurgitating
>>>>>>>>>> "401.1".
>>>>>>>>>> 401.1 is supposed to be "invalid credentials", but I know the
>>>>>>>>>> username/password are correct.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I've checked her Exch permissions, and they seem fine
>>>>>>>> (same as mine
>>>>>>>>>> for her mailbox).
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>    Jim Harrison
>>>>>>>>>>    MCP(NT4, W2K), A+, Network+, PCG
>>>>>>>>>>    http://isaserver.org/Jim_Harrison/
>>>>>>>>>>    http://isatools.org
>>>>>>>>>>    Read the help / books / articles!
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