Yes, but the DNS server in a DoD connection is s special case. Remember; this only happens If the local network defines a *local* DNS server. If the local network defined an off-subnet DNS server, then the DoD DNS server would be tried frist. BTDT; was a nasty bear to sort out. Jim From: isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Thor (Hammer of God) Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 9:50 PM To: isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [isapros] Re: Came across this little gem... In XP, the VPN client DNS is prioritized, so it's not an issue. And in Vista, you can tell it to "use the default gateway on the remote network" to query the DNS server specified in the VPN connection. t From: isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jim Harrison Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 9:11 PM To: ISA Mailing List; ISAPros Mailing List Subject: [isapros] Re: Came across this little gem... Yep - these are the same geniuses that choose to respond for domains they don't hold. Case in point: C:\>nslookup -d anyhost.corp.microsoft.com. 208.67.222.222 ------------ Got answer: HEADER: opcode = QUERY, id = 1, rcode = NOERROR header flags: response, want recursion, recursion avail. questions = 1, answers = 1, authority records = 0, additional = 0 QUESTIONS: 222.222.67.208.in-addr.arpa, type = PTR, class = IN ANSWERS: -> 222.222.67.208.in-addr.arpa name = resolver1.opendns.com ttl = 82245 (22 hours 50 mins 45 secs) ------------ Server: resolver1.opendns.com Address: 208.67.222.222 ------------ Got answer: HEADER: opcode = QUERY, id = 2, rcode = NOERROR header flags: response, want recursion, recursion avail. questions = 1, answers = 1, authority records = 0, additional = 0 QUESTIONS: anyhost.corp.microsoft.com, type = A, class = IN ANSWERS: -> anyhost.corp.microsoft.com internet address = 208.67.216.130 ttl = 0 (0 secs) ------------ Non-authoritative answer: Name: anyhost.corp.microsoft.com Address: 208.67.216.130 What's the problem with this you may ask (go ahead - I triple-dog-dare ya)? Take the case of the home (or small business) user chooses to use their DNS in their NAT device. In many cases, this NAT device also acts as the local network "DNS proxy" in that the DHCP service it provides assigns its NAT IP (say; 192.168.0.1) as the DNS server for the internal hosts. Now let's this user has the ability to create a VPN connection to Microsoft. When this connection is created, the VPN client has two DNS servers to query; the local NAT DNS provided by the DHCP assignment and the DNS server supplied via the VPN connection. When Windows tries to resolve <host>.corp.microsoft.com, the closest DNS server is the one defined in the non-DoD network, or 192.168.0.1. This DNS server, being nothing more than a NAT reference to the OpenDNS "services" replies to this request with an IUP address that is *not* found within MS internal address space. Thus, the user can never make a name-based connection across the VPN tunnel. Apparently, they query the authoritative DNS services and if they come up empty, the respond with an address anyway. We tried working with them to stop doing this, but to no avail. While my (real-life) example is Microsoft-specific, it would work if the domain was ISAtools.org. Consider using this "service" carefully; it'll bite you in the butt when you least expect it. Jim From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Moffat Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 3:50 PM To: ISA Mailing List; ISAPros Mailing List Subject: [isalist] Came across this little gem... Looks like this could very well compliment your ISA installs guys... http://www.opendns.com Thanks Steve Steve Moffat Operations Director Optimum IT Solutions Desk: 441 292 8849 Mobile: 441 292 8849 MSN IM: steve@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:steve@xxxxxxxxxx> Web: http://optimum.bm<http://optimum.bm/> Dedicated to proactively supporting our customers This email may contain confidential information. If you are not named on the addressee list, please take no action in relation to this email, do not open any attachment, and please contact the sender (details above) immediately. Information in this email is provided in good faith. If you are a customer of Optimum IT Solutions please refer to the terms and conditions which cover the provision of support and consulting services to you/your organization. If you are not corresponding in the course of, or in connection with a Optimum IT Solutions contract or program with its own terms and conditions, please note that no liability is accepted by Optimum IT Solutions for the contents of this mail.