[isalist] Re: proxy configuration

  • From: "Glenn P. JOHNSTON" <glenn.johnston@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 16:14:58 +1100

Hi Ara,
 
Sounds like a typical vendor help desk, 
 
"We'll give you all the support you need, provided you run the application on 
whitebox clones, direct internet connection, and only if you call us on the 3rd 
sunday after your Grandmothers 50th birthday.........."
 
Is there anything else that could be coming in to play here ?
 
e.g. Internet Security from Symantec acting as either a firewall /or pop up 
blocker or both, is there a third party free or commercial pop up blocker 
installed, Is there one of the free firewall walls like zone alarms installed 
on the PC, Is windows defender or a similar Spyware blocker installed, 
 
Have you carefully viewed the logs on the ISA to make sure that the 
applicatrion is not trying to open a connection on a non standard port.

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From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of Ara Avvali
Sent: Tue 31/Oct/2006 16:03
To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [isalist] Re: proxy configuration



Hi Mohamed,

Yes it is pretty much the same situation. The problem is their tech support 
doesn't help anything at all as soon as they see the proxy address in internet 
explorer. All they say is disable the IE pop up blocker and increase the cache 
size to 2 GB in IE. Anyway we are moving to stand alone version of payroll by 
January so that would be the end of it.

Thanks anyway

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From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of mohamed saleh
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 8:23 PM
To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [isalist] Re: proxy configuration

 

Ara,

Let we think slowly,

you said that the client can connect to the site successfully and login 
correctly till he see the icons of the payroll program, and it takes long time 
if he press any button further, right...

 

Allright, it's some how like Connecting to hotmail....

 

you connect to hotmail site and login correctly and then you can do anything in 
ur hotmail acount and press any button you want,

so I think that site is using a some kind of scripting or programing language 
or authentication method, which you should enable it to pass through ISA.... 

The hotmail, for example, check for the authentication and authorization to 
every page to ensure that this user account is the same user account and is not 
man in the middle,...

 

So, I think you have to check with them how they make thier online 
authentication and authorization, and I think this might be help

        ----- Original Message ----- 

        From: Ara Avvali <mailto:Ara.Avvali@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>  

        To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 

        Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 7:15 PM

        Subject: [isalist] Re: proxy configuration

         

        Hi Dan,

        Would you mind keeping me posted if you find the help reference? Thank 
you

         

        
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        From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ball, Dan
        Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 10:11 AM
        To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
        Subject: [isalist] Re: proxy configuration

         

        If you recall, a month or so ago I had problems with similar symptoms.  
I'll have to go back through my messages and see what the final result was, as 
I think it was a combination of things like DNS resolution, wpad retrieval, 
auto-configuration, etc...

         

        
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        From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ara Avvali
        Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 11:58 AM
        To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
        Subject: [isalist] Re: proxy configuration

         

        Hi Jim,

        Thanks for your response. The problem I have we are using a web based 
ADP payroll by going to https://payex.adp.com. As you notice it requires an 
assigned certificate to go to site. Client is a xp sp2 with pop up blocker 
disabled and there is an allow rule on top going from internal to *.adp.com 
which allows all users access.

        Problem is behind ISA pages load slowly (2-3 times slower) and 
sometimes they even time out. Checking on live monitoring I found that 
connections are going to njpod18.adp.com which I think *.adp.com should cover 
it. If I connect the client directly to the router in front of ISA then 
everything works as fast as expected. Yesterday there was a threat about speed 
and Tom mentioned increasing connections should help. Even that gave me no luck.

        I have convinced the accounting that we should migrate to installed 
version of payroll program instead of web based. But that could be done after 
January. For now on I just connect one of machines directly to internet and let 
them do the payroll but that is not the practical solution. Man what a mess it 
would be if I deploy IE7 and the certificate check it has.

        I was wondering if anyone has any experience with this problem. ADP 
support as soon as they see a proxy server set in IE, then it is my side to 
figure out the problem. They have no documents about it. I found some 
instructions but that was no help either. That was why I tried the direct 
access solution.

        http://isainsbs.blogspot.com/2006/01/allowing-adp-through-isa-2004.html 

        http://forums.isaserver.org/m_2002000597/mpage_1/key_/tm.htm#2002029215 

        Appreciated 

        
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        From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jim Harrison
        Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 6:25 PM
        To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
        Subject: [isalist] Re: proxy configuration

         

        You're shotgunning, Ara.

        Creating an "allow all" rule has nothing to do with "speed".

        Unless *.adp is part of the network structure that it "local" to the 
browser client, adding it to the web browser and domains data is inappropritate.

        Proxycfg has nothing to do with IE settings or IE behavior.

        Can you explain what you mean by "speed problems"?

         

        From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ara Avvali
        Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 4:32 PM
        To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
        Subject: [isalist] proxy configuration

         

        Hello everyone.

         

        I added *.adp.com for direct access to adp site. Created a rule to 
allow all outbound traffic from internal to *.adp.com but I still have speed 
issues. So I ran the proxycfg on the client which is xp sp2 with firewall 
client installed and it is telling me nothing is set for direct access. Any 
idea why? Appreciated 

         

         

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