RE: Rules not working.

  • From: "Thomas W. Shinder" <tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 15:32:47 -0500

Hi Erik,

OK, let's try to get to the bottom of this problem!

In your Firewall log, configure it to log Rule#1 and Rule#2. This will
give you information about what Protocol Rule and Site and Content Rule
is allowing the requests through the ISA Server.

HTH,
Tom
www.isaserver.org/shinder


-----Original Message-----
From: Erik Sojka [mailto:esojka@xxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 2:46 PM
To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
Subject: [isalist] RE: Rules not working.

http://www.ISAserver.org


Inline prefaced with EPS>  

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Thomas W. Shinder [mailto:tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
> Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 1:06 PM
> To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> Subject: [isalist] RE: Rules not working.
> 
> 
> http://www.ISAserver.org
> 
> 
> Hi Erik,
> 
> ISA Server ONLY passes traffic you allow. Period. So, there 
> are several
> possibilities:
> 
> 1. The PIX operator is wrong
> 

EPS> I've seen the PIX config and the logs.  When I try a test
connection
through ISA to http://www.whatever.com:8000 (actual server name and port
do
not matter) the PIX logs the attempt coming from the ISA server and
denies
it.  

> 2. The LAT is configured incorrectly

EPS> I double checked; There are only LAT entries for our internal
VLANs.

> 
> 3. Packet filtering is not enabled on the ISA Server
> 

EPS> Packet filtering is enabled;  There are two packet filters:
Predefined
"ICMP All Outbound" and Predefined "ICMP Ping Response (in)".  Both are
enabled and applied to all remote computers and default IP addresses on
external interfaces.  

> 4. All "all open" Protocol Rule is there somewhere
> 

EPS> Where?  Somewhere other than "S&C Rules", "Protocol Rules", and "IP
Packet Filters" under the Access Policy container?

> That said, you do NOT need to create a deny rule for all 
> protocols that
> are not allowed. If you do not create an allow rule for these other
> protocols, they will not be allowed.
> 

EPS> Hence my asking the question; I do see the behavior I'm reporting.
Any
other thoughts?


> HTH,
> Tom
> www.isaserver.org/shinder
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Erik Sojka [mailto:esojka@xxxxxxxx] 
> Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 11:55 AM
> To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> Subject: [isalist] Rules not working.
> 
> http://www.ISAserver.org
> 
> 
> 
> Server: ISA Server SP1 running on W2K SP2 + SRP + patches in
> Standalone/Integrated mode in an Active Directory domain.  The ISA
> server
> sits behind our Cisco Pix firewall.  
> 
> We previously ran our server on the above config using only caching
> mode.
> The Pix administrator reported that requests for nonstandard ports
> (things
> other than 80, 443, 20/21) were being passed through from ISA but
> blocked at
> the Pix.  As part of our troubleshooting efforts, we rebuilt 
> the server
> and
> added the firewall featureset (yielding the config above).
> 
> Site and Content rule (1 rule):
> - Allow all traffic to all destinations at all times; applied to an NT
> group
> we created that has all users allowed to surf the Internet; 
> all content
> groups allowed.
> 
> Protocol Rules:
> - We initially had a single rule - Allow selected protocols (HTTP,
> HTTPS,
> FTP DL Only) at all times applied to the NT user group 
> mentioned above).
> ISA should normally not allow traffic through that is not allowed,
> right?
> With this single protocol rule, IE requests for pages at 
> different ports
> were passed through to the PIX.  
> - Then we created a second protocol rule - Deny all requests to
> protocols
> except HTTP, HTTPS, FTP DL only; applied always and to the NT group. -
> Same
> thing.
> 
> What am I missing?  Why is ISA passing this traffic through when it
> seems
> like it shouldn't?
> 
> TIA, 
> 
> *****************************
> * Erik Sojka, MOS, MCSE     *
> * Manager, Network Services *
> * esojka@xxxxxxxx           *
> ***************************** 
> 
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