RE: Rules

  • From: Troy Radtke <TRadtke@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "'[ISAserver.org Discussion List]'" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2004 08:28:31 -0500

Security vs. ease of use..... If the point is to be ultra secure, then block
all.  If the point is the hacker/virus speed bump, then open all.....

Personally, it's not even a question.... If you're going to open everything
up, Black Ice Defender and ICS would have been a much cheaper solution...
=?)

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Harrison [mailto:jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 12:18 AM
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Subject: [isalist] RE: Rules


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Hear-hear.
The idea that "I'll open everything and only block what I need to" will keep
you hopping as you try to keep up with the 1d10t applications that think
they're smarter than you (Kazaaa, BearShare, etc.).
Lock it down and only open what you need to.

  Jim Harrison
  MCP(NT4, W2K), A+, Network+, PCG
  http://isaserver.org/Jim_Harrison/
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On Thu, 30 Sep 2004 18:53:58 -0700
 "Thor" <thor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
http://www.ISAserver.org

Best practices would dictate that you only allow what is needed.  Everything
should be blocked by default, and only the services needed allowed- and even
then, they should only be allowed for those who need it.

t

----- Original Message ----- From: Aman Bedi
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Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2004 6:08 PM
Subject: [isalist] RE: Rules


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I wont have any anonymous rules coz I wanna force firewall clients
I wanted to know , whether it is right to open everything going out and just
block stuff not needed..OR
Should we block everything going out and just open whats needed ?


Also, is there a need to make servers like internal webservers, domain
controllers, exchange etc any kind of client. Is it ok if I just make all my
servers as SECURENAT (no proxy and no firewall clients on any servers ) ? if
the servers are not initiating any connections. is there a need for them to
be a client ? I am  a littler confused on this..

Thanks

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From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2004 7:14 PM
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Subject: [isalist] RE: Rules

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Hi Aman,

They way I do it when an organization doesn't use Least Privilege:

Deny Rules first
Anonymous Rules next
Authenticated Rules

HTH,
Tom



From: Aman Bedi [mailto:gurkirpal.bedi@xxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2004 5:40 PM
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Subject: [isalist] Rules

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Hi all

'I know its not the best practice but is it ok.

to have ALL open rules for outgoing traffic ..and
Rules to block things which I don't want like FTP, or messengers , etc etc
above that rule

And for incoming ..
Block all incoming traffic rule (the default rule)
And rules to allow stuff above that

Like

----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Rule 1 ------------ block outgoing this
Rule 2 -------------block outgoing this
Rule 3-------------block outgoing ths
.
..
ALL OPEN (int to ext) ----ALLOW ----ALL TRAFFIC -----INTERNAL
--------EXTERNAL

Rule 10 .......Allow incoming this
Rule 11.......Allow incoming this
Rule 12.......Allow incoming this
.
.
Last Deafult Rule -------DENY ----ALL TRAFFIC -----ALL NETWORKS---ALL
NETWORKS
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