Hmmm,, Very true, I get a clearer picture of this stuff now. And believe me lot of hit and trial has gone :) And about u being a fan, I recall u r a big Fan of direct access tooo ;) Thanks Again ! Scanbuy Inc Aman Bedi | Systems/Network Administrator (MCP, MCSD, MCSA 2000, MCSA 2003) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 12:01 PM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] Re: Proxy settings http://www.ISAserver.org Hi Aman, OK, there you go. Like I said, some applications don't work right with Web Proxies. And like Shawn said, some applications don't work with authenticating proxies. So, when you put those two together, Interdev doesn't work :) So, you're solution to use the Firewall client solves all the problems because authentication is transparent and automatic for the Firewall client. That's just one of the reasons why I'm a big fan of the Firewall client! Thanks! Tom www.isaserver.org/shinder Get the book! Tom and Deb Shinder's Configuring ISA Server 2004 http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7 MVP -- ISA Firewalls -----Original Message----- From: Aman Bedi [mailto:gurkirpal.bedi@xxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 10:59 AM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] Re: Proxy settings http://www.ISAserver.org TOM, I know that .. I just wanted to confirm before making the following statement.. ;) "Interdev DOES NOT work with auto config script" as I said earlier .. I tried that and it did not.. it only takes proxy settings if defined manually in IE. But EVEN if you do so, it wont take the authentication.... :) Scanbuy Inc Aman Bedi | Systems/Network Administrator ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---- ------------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 11:52 AM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] Re: Proxy settings http://www.ISAserver.org Hi Aman, You got it! Exactly. Make sure the Web Proxy clients are configured to use the autoconfiguration script, or autoconfigure them using wpad and autodiscovery. That way the Web Proxy clients will be able to pull the information from the ISA firewall they need for Direct Access. HTH, Tom www.isaserver.org/shinder Get the book! Tom and Deb Shinder's Configuring ISA Server 2004 http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7 MVP -- ISA Firewalls -----Original Message----- From: Aman Bedi [mailto:gurkirpal.bedi@xxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 10:49 AM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] Re: Proxy settings http://www.ISAserver.org Do u mean ... in the internal network properties... in web browser tab .. "directly access these servers or domains " ? Scanbuy Inc Aman Bedi | Systems/Network Administrator ------------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 11:26 AM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] Re: Proxy settings http://www.ISAserver.org Hi Aman, Direct Access is configured centrally on the ISA firewall though the Web Proxy listener settings. No client touching allowed! :) HTH, Tom www.isaserver.org/shinder Get the book! Tom and Deb Shinder's Configuring ISA Server 2004 http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7 MVP -- ISA Firewalls -----Original Message----- From: Aman Bedi [mailto:gurkirpal.bedi@xxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 9:58 AM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] Re: Proxy settings http://www.ISAserver.org Hi Tom, I like direct access too ;) But as I said then I will have to configure proxy settings manually on client machines. (which is not what I think is best) I have dozens of developers and going to their machines is pain. If this direct access would have worked with the auto config file that would have been cool. But Interdev !!!! Right now, Firewall client solved it. What else can I ask for :) Thanks to all you experts. I love it here ... ;) Scanbuy Inc Aman Bedi | Systems/Network Administrator ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---- ------------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 10:35 AM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] Re: Proxy settings http://www.ISAserver.org Hi Shawn, Thanks! I like the Direct Access fix :) Tom www.isaserver.org/shinder Get the book! Tom and Deb Shinder's Configuring ISA Server 2004 http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7 MVP -- ISA Firewalls -----Original Message----- From: Quillman Shawn (RBNA/CSA1) * [mailto:Shawn.Quillman@xxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 8:24 AM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] Re: Proxy settings http://www.ISAserver.org InterDev supports manual proxy settings (Tools | Otions | Projects) but not authenticated proxy. You have to configure sites for open access for InterDev to work. Or get something cool like WebScarab to sit on your InterDev workstation and add a proxy authorization header into the request :) -Shawn ----- Shawn R. Quillman Robert Bosch Corporation RBNA/CSA1 38000 Hills Tech Drive Farmington Hills, MI 48331 (248) 553-1164 (P) (248) 848-6969 (F) shawn.quillman@xxxxxxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2004 6:28 PM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] Re: Proxy settings http://www.ISAserver.org Hi Aman, Some apps don't work properly as Web Proxy clients -- I believe Visual Interdev is one of them. Disable the Web Proxy client config when using that config, or configure the required sites for Direct Access. Also, do you have a split DNS in place? Or are the clients looping back through the ISA firewall to access internal network resources? Thanks! Tom www.isaserver.org/shinder Get the book! Tom and Deb Shinder's Configuring ISA Server 2004 http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7 MVP -- ISA Firewalls -----Original Message----- From: Aman Bedi [mailto:gurkirpal.bedi@xxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2004 5:14 PM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] Re: Proxy settings http://www.ISAserver.org Also , Something to add 1)MS Visual Interdev does not seem to pick the settings from the automatic configuration script. (proxy client) 2)It takes the manual proxy settings if specified in IE, but cannot authenticate to ISA using integrated authentication. Also for basic authentication, it does not prompt for username and passwd. Fails with an error. 3)if you remove secureNAT client( remove default gateway) ...everything is solved with firewall and proxy client. - Interdev works great with Firewall client settings. Only autoscript is enabled in proxy settings. - internal IPs and external IPs and domain names work for internal web sites. - browsing is much faster. A lot of hit and trial involved. A question .. what is the order of clients taken up, if it configured as all three - securenat , proxy and firewall ... does the client try for proxy settings, if not found tries for securenat, if not found tries for firewall client ?? or the order is different. I am confused as removing securenat client solved most of the issues I was facing till now . Thanks Scanbuy Inc Aman Bedi | Systems/Network Administrator (MCP, MCSD, MCSA 2000, MCSA 2003) 54 West 39th Street, 4th Floor, New York, NY 10018 | Fax +1(212) 202-4318 | Phone +1(212) 278-0178 ext 234 | www.scanbuy.com PRIVILEGED & CONFIDENTIAL The information contained in this email message is intended only for use of the person or entity to whom it is addressed. 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But open my computer... type in the public ip or domain name and it works..( I think that is IE too, when the page opens) Strange Anyways thanks Scanbuy Inc Aman Bedi | Systems/Network Administrator (MCP, MCSD, MCSA 2000, MCSA 2003) 54 West 39th Street, 4th Floor, New York, NY 10018 | Fax +1(212) 202-4318 | Phone +1(212) 278-0178 ext 234 | www.scanbuy.com PRIVILEGED & CONFIDENTIAL The information contained in this email message is intended only for use of the person or entity to whom it is addressed. The contained information is CONFIDENTIAL and LEGALLY PRIVILEGED and exempt from disclosure under applicable laws. If you read this message and are not the addressee, you are notified that use, dissemination or reproduction of this message is prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---- ------------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: Jim Harrison [mailto:jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2004 4:31 PM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] Re: Proxy settings http://www.ISAserver.org Quit trying to make IE use the published IP. If the resource is internal, keep it that way. Jim Harrison MCP(NT4, W2K), A+, Network+, PCG http://isaserver.org/Jim_Harrison/ http://isatools.org Read the help / books / articles! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Aman Bedi" <gurkirpal.bedi@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2004 12:17 Subject: [isalist] Proxy settings http://www.ISAserver.org Hi guys , I am facing an issue, When in IE I use proxy server settings . like manually specify the ISA server and the port, My INTERNAL sites work well with the public IP and site name. But When I use the automatic configuration script, then IE doesn't show the internal sites with public IP or site name. it works only with local IP then. How can I fix this. ?? Shouldn't using the script give same functionality as using the proxy server name manually ? Please suggest TIA Aman Bedi | Systems/Network Administrator (MCP, MCSD, MCSA 2000, MCSA 2003) 54 West 39th Street, 4th Floor, New York, NY 10018 | Fax +1(212) 202-4318 | Phone +1(212) 278-0178 ext 234 | www.scanbuy.com PRIVILEGED & CONFIDENTIAL The information contained in this email message is intended only for use of the person or entity to whom it is addressed. The contained information is CONFIDENTIAL and LEGALLY PRIVILEGED and exempt from disclosure under applicable laws. If you read this message and are not the addressee, you are notified that use, dissemination or reproduction of this message is prohibited. 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