YOU GO JIMBO Greg Mulholland Tech Services Manager Harvey Norman +613 98019333 greg_mul@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: Jim Harrison [mailto:jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 7:16 AM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] http://www.ISAserver.org Here was my response to this kind of "auto-advisor" code today: (his mail) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Postmaster" <postmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <postmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 00:32 Subject: Your mail server sent us a virus The Virus software on our mail server detected the W32/Sobig.C@mm virus that appears to have come from your mail server. It was sent in an attachment application.pif, from jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx to kosmoski@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, with the subject "Re: Movie". The Message-ID was: <20030605023254.SM01532@FREMIOT-PC>. If your mail server had virus protection, it would have caused less work for our server and would have likely prevented one of your users from getting a virus in the first place! (my response) Hello, Five points for you to ponder: 1. I've examined my mail server logs for the past week and no such mail ever left my server. 2. I have server-based AV scanning and it has been catching Sobig for the last week. 3. It's one of the attributes of Sobig that the source email addr is spoofed. 4. If you examine the mail header and your own mail logs, you'll likely see that regardless of the "source email address", the source IP is not mine. 5. If your automation was smarter, I wouldn't have to respond to inane comments like "If your mail server had virus protection, it would have caused less work for our server and would have likely prevented one of your users from getting a virus in the first place!" The fact is, if you used smarter virus response automation, I wouldn't have to waste my time educating you. Get a clue; they're free. Jim Harrison MCP(NT4, W2K), A+, Network+, PCG http://www.microsoft.com/isaserver http://isaserver.org/Jim_Harrison http://isatools.org Read the help, books and articles! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Gabbard" <intellihome@xxxxxxxxx> To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 12:47 Subject: [isalist] OT: virus in list http://www.ISAserver.org I just sent a reply to a post and then received an out-of-office reply that had a virus attached, according to Norton AV. The virus came from "NAVMSE-BRUMAIL@xxxxxxxxxxx" I think, not sure how Norton handle these. Has this happened to anyone else on the list? Dan ------------------------------------------------------ List Archives: http://www.webelists.com/cgi/lyris.pl?enter=isalist ISA Server Newsletter: http://www.isaserver.org/pages/newsletter.asp ISA Server FAQ: http://www.isaserver.org/pages/larticle.asp?type=FAQ ------------------------------------------------------ Other Internet Software Marketing Sites: Leading Network Software Directory: http://www.serverfiles.com No.1 Exchange Server Resource Site: http://www.msexchange.org Windows Security Resource Site: http://www.windowsecurity.com/ Network Security Library: http://www.secinf.net/ Windows 2000/NT Fax Solutions: http://www.ntfaxfaq.com ------------------------------------------------------ You are currently subscribed to this ISAserver.org Discussion List as: jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send a blank email to $subst('Email.Unsub') ------------------------------------------------------ List Archives: http://www.webelists.com/cgi/lyris.pl?enter=isalist ISA Server Newsletter: http://www.isaserver.org/pages/newsletter.asp ISA Server FAQ: http://www.isaserver.org/pages/larticle.asp?type=FAQ ------------------------------------------------------ Other Internet Software Marketing Sites: Leading Network Software Directory: http://www.serverfiles.com No.1 Exchange Server Resource Site: http://www.msexchange.org Windows Security Resource Site: http://www.windowsecurity.com/ Network Security Library: http://www.secinf.net/ Windows 2000/NT Fax Solutions: http://www.ntfaxfaq.com ------------------------------------------------------ You are currently subscribed to this ISAserver.org Discussion List as: greg_mul@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send a blank email to $subst('Email.Unsub')