Microsoft and Cisco Systems Announce Support for ICE Methodology to Deliver End-to-End Media Connections Across NATs http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2005/nov05/11-09icenatpr.mspx Any of you insiders know more about this? As a user of both MS/ISA and Cisco/VOIP this is very interesting. The article gives no timeline, I was just wandering if we're talking months, years or pie-in-the-sky? The article doesn't directly mention ISA, but I assume it must be involved to make the NAT translation. Thank you, Scott Talley IT Manager, The Combined Group e> stalley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx p> 469.892.9829 f> 469.892.9710