Hi Greg, First suspect is always layer 1: routers, cables, ISPs issues -- too many people, including me, have VPN links stay up for hours or days without problems. So, as long as your server is up to date, I have to put ISA firewall related problems low on the list. Try using L2TP/IPSec -- there are rumors, and nothing more than rumors, that there's an issue with the control channel getting "stale", for want of a better term. I don't know if it's a TCP protocol issue, or something in the PPTP control command set. But sometimes changing to L2TP helps. Try switching from your high dollar Intel card with custom Intel drivers to a cheapo Realtek or Linksys that has built in Win2k drivers. A number of people have suggested that this has helped them too. Make sure that there are no Remote Access Policies involved that direct the servers or clients to drop the connection after "x" minutes of inactivity. Run a NetMon trace and catch the packets and see if anything interesting happens right before the disconnect. Since the disconnect happens so frequently, you won't have to wait long to get multiple examples. HTH, Tom Thomas W Shinder www.isaserver.org/shinder ISA Server and Beyond: http://tinyurl.com/1jq1 Configuring ISA Server: http://tinyurl.com/1llp -----Original Message----- From: Greg Wright [mailto:greg@xxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 9:09 PM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] ISA Server and Outbound VPN http://www.ISAserver.org Hi all, I havent been able to keep an eye on the mailing list for quite some time, and I know that in the past there has been some ISA VPN related posts. The reason I am posting this, is I have a customer that has a highly configured ISA system, with configuration for an outbounf VPN connection to their ISP for internet access, and then a couple more oubound vpn's connecting the office to a central office in the US. The internet VPN connection is constantly dropping and redialling its connection. While I was onsite, the VPN never stayed up longer than 5 minutes. Has anyone got any clues, recommendations or suggestions about issues relating to VPN calls, ISA quirks etc? I expect it will be just a matter of troubleshooting it, but I wondered if anyone could give me a heads up before I get onsite. Thanks, Greg ------------------------------------------------------ List Archives: http://www.webelists.com/cgi/lyris.pl?enter=isalist ISA Server Newsletter: http://www.isaserver.org/pages/newsletter.asp ISA Server FAQ: http://www.isaserver.org/pages/larticle.asp?type=FAQ ------------------------------------------------------ Other Internet Software Marketing Sites: Leading Network Software Directory: http://www.serverfiles.com No.1 Exchange Server Resource Site: http://www.msexchange.org Windows Security Resource Site: http://www.windowsecurity.com/ Network Security Library: http://www.secinf.net/ Windows 2000/NT Fax Solutions: http://www.ntfaxfaq.com ------------------------------------------------------ You are currently subscribed to this ISAserver.org Discussion List as: tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send a blank email to $subst('Email.Unsub')