Re: ISA Reboots Periodically (losing confidence quickly)

  • From: "Mark Strangways" <strangconst@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 21:05:57 -0400

Actually I recall back in the days when my hardware was fresh... I saw many
months of uptime before I would restart. And the restart was do to software
updates not a crash.
Since then my like for Maxtor drives has diminished at a steady rate,
roughly equal to there failure rate.

regards,

Mark S
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mark Strangways" <strangconst@xxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 9:01 PM
Subject: [isalist] Re: ISA Reboots Periodically (losing confidence quickly)


> http://www.ISAserver.org
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> Is my post being read as "I blame ISA server for my troubles" ?
> I thought I was trying to say that my server hardware was to blame !!!
> And I was trying to suggest that disabling ISA may show that the server
> would crash and restart with out even ISA being a functioning service !
>
> Perhaps I didn't phrase it correctly ?
>
> Well, I hope it clears it up.
>
> Mark
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Thomas W Shinder" <tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 8:44 PM
> Subject: [isalist] Re: ISA Reboots Periodically (losing confidence
quickly)
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> Hi Mark,
>
> Network troubleshooting must always start at the bottom of OSI. That's
> why is always amazes me that people (including myself all too often)
> blame ISA Server first, when the problem is a bad cable, a bad router, a
> bad gateway address a bad subnet mask, and any number of other things.
> The only real ISA Server specific problem I've ever had was related to
> the dreaded NetBIOS node adapter status queries the ISA Server did for
> inbound requests for published servers. Now that problems seems to be
> solved and uptimes are in very good and service access is exemplary,
>
> Thanks!
> Tom
>
> Thomas W Shinder
> www.isaserver.org/shinder
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>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mark Strangways [mailto:strangconst@xxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 5:15 PM
> To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> Subject: [isalist] Re: ISA Reboots Periodically (losing confidence
> quickly)
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>
> http://www.ISAserver.org
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>
> I have the issues you describe.
> My server reboots itself on a random basis.
> I have been meaning to nuke and pave the systems for a while , but lack
> the
> desire to spend 6 hrs rebuilding it from the ground.
> I know my server requires some new drives, and this is what is likely
> causing my servers stress.
>
> If you can keep the server offline from the internet, try to run the
> server
> with ISA disabled.
> You will "likely" find that it will reboot with out ISA running.
> But you will have to use it as a server in some form to make sure it's
> taxed.
> Perhaps disable the web cache if you use it.
>
> Regards,
>
> Mark S
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Mike-TechniSource" <mike@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 12:13 PM
> Subject: [isalist] Re: ISA Reboots Periodically (losing confidence
> quickly)
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>
> Hello All,
>
> Thank you for all your quick replies.
>
> All of the things you mention are valid points - and I will narrow it
> down that way.  I guess I ruled some of the hardware issues out, due to
> the server being an pre-existing server for some other critical services
> previous to ISA being installed on there.  Still, ISA may be stressing
> the server in a different way, than previously before.  Addressing
> different memory locations, being ultra network intensive, etc.
>
> Swapping the RAM is a wonderful idea - even know we never got any parity
> errors, and so forth.
>
> I appreciate your input - and also restoring my confidence in ISA Server
> - as I really don't believe in dropping tons of cash on Internet
> Appliances, when a PC running reasonably priced software *should* be
> able to manage the task just as well (if not better).
>
> Thanks!
>
> Mike
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Deus, Attonbitus [mailto:Thor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 11:08 AM
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> Subject: [isalist] Re: ISA Reboots Periodically (losing confidence
> quickly)
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> At 08:18 AM 6/3/2003, you wrote:
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> >ISA Server may be wonderful - but it's only as good as the Machine, and
>
> >Operating System that it runs on top of.  Maybe it's time to purchase
> >an Internet Appliance for this mission critical task - as I can't bank
> >my life on something that is unreliable.
> >
> >Is ISA Server truly a corporate solution???  Are all of you having good
>
> >luck in general with the Software?
>
> I've been running multiple servers in multiple states since it shipped,
> and
> have not had any issues at all like that.  The worst thing that happened
> to
> me was that a Trend Micro product kept the web proxy service from
> starting,
> but that is not ISA's problem.
>
> The issue is not with ISA- you've got some funky hardware deal going on,
> or
> some other software conflict.  What are your Startup/Recovery
> Settings?  I'd make sure to start writing a full memory dump and not
> automatically restart- that way you can get to the bottom of it,
> hopefully.
>
> hth
>
> T
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