Actually I recall back in the days when my hardware was fresh... I saw many months of uptime before I would restart. And the restart was do to software updates not a crash. Since then my like for Maxtor drives has diminished at a steady rate, roughly equal to there failure rate. regards, Mark S ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Strangways" <strangconst@xxxxxxxxxx> To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 9:01 PM Subject: [isalist] Re: ISA Reboots Periodically (losing confidence quickly) > http://www.ISAserver.org > > > Is my post being read as "I blame ISA server for my troubles" ? > I thought I was trying to say that my server hardware was to blame !!! > And I was trying to suggest that disabling ISA may show that the server > would crash and restart with out even ISA being a functioning service ! > > Perhaps I didn't phrase it correctly ? > > Well, I hope it clears it up. > > Mark > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Thomas W Shinder" <tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 8:44 PM > Subject: [isalist] Re: ISA Reboots Periodically (losing confidence quickly) > > > http://www.ISAserver.org > > > Hi Mark, > > Network troubleshooting must always start at the bottom of OSI. That's > why is always amazes me that people (including myself all too often) > blame ISA Server first, when the problem is a bad cable, a bad router, a > bad gateway address a bad subnet mask, and any number of other things. > The only real ISA Server specific problem I've ever had was related to > the dreaded NetBIOS node adapter status queries the ISA Server did for > inbound requests for published servers. Now that problems seems to be > solved and uptimes are in very good and service access is exemplary, > > Thanks! > Tom > > Thomas W Shinder > www.isaserver.org/shinder > ISA Server and Beyond: http://tinyurl.com/1jq1 > Configuring ISA Server: http://tinyurl.com/1llp > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mark Strangways [mailto:strangconst@xxxxxxxxxx] > Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 5:15 PM > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] > Subject: [isalist] Re: ISA Reboots Periodically (losing confidence > quickly) > > > http://www.ISAserver.org > > > I have the issues you describe. > My server reboots itself on a random basis. > I have been meaning to nuke and pave the systems for a while , but lack > the > desire to spend 6 hrs rebuilding it from the ground. > I know my server requires some new drives, and this is what is likely > causing my servers stress. > > If you can keep the server offline from the internet, try to run the > server > with ISA disabled. > You will "likely" find that it will reboot with out ISA running. > But you will have to use it as a server in some form to make sure it's > taxed. > Perhaps disable the web cache if you use it. > > Regards, > > Mark S > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike-TechniSource" <mike@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 12:13 PM > Subject: [isalist] Re: ISA Reboots Periodically (losing confidence > quickly) > > > http://www.ISAserver.org > > > Hello All, > > Thank you for all your quick replies. > > All of the things you mention are valid points - and I will narrow it > down that way. I guess I ruled some of the hardware issues out, due to > the server being an pre-existing server for some other critical services > previous to ISA being installed on there. Still, ISA may be stressing > the server in a different way, than previously before. Addressing > different memory locations, being ultra network intensive, etc. > > Swapping the RAM is a wonderful idea - even know we never got any parity > errors, and so forth. > > I appreciate your input - and also restoring my confidence in ISA Server > - as I really don't believe in dropping tons of cash on Internet > Appliances, when a PC running reasonably priced software *should* be > able to manage the task just as well (if not better). > > Thanks! > > Mike > > -----Original Message----- > From: Deus, Attonbitus [mailto:Thor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] > Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 11:08 AM > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] > Subject: [isalist] Re: ISA Reboots Periodically (losing confidence > quickly) > > > http://www.ISAserver.org > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > At 08:18 AM 6/3/2003, you wrote: > > >ISA Server may be wonderful - but it's only as good as the Machine, and > > >Operating System that it runs on top of. Maybe it's time to purchase > >an Internet Appliance for this mission critical task - as I can't bank > >my life on something that is unreliable. > > > >Is ISA Server truly a corporate solution??? Are all of you having good > > >luck in general with the Software? > > I've been running multiple servers in multiple states since it shipped, > and > have not had any issues at all like that. The worst thing that happened > to > me was that a Trend Micro product kept the web proxy service from > starting, > but that is not ISA's problem. > > The issue is not with ISA- you've got some funky hardware deal going on, > or > some other software conflict. What are your Startup/Recovery > Settings? I'd make sure to start writing a full memory dump and not > automatically restart- that way you can get to the bottom of it, > hopefully. > > hth > > T > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: PGP 8.0 > > iQA/AwUBPtzHyohsmyD15h5gEQLU4wCgrJ9iebcVHNaOMKb4AhyvpA6xc8IAnRB7 > PlGRwjUHq5BaZCo8srta5tEs > =OvXw > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > ------------------------------------------------------ > List Archives: http://www.webelists.com/cgi/lyris.pl?enter=isalist > ISA Server Newsletter: http://www.isaserver.org/pages/newsletter.asp > ISA Server FAQ: http://www.isaserver.org/pages/larticle.asp?type=FAQ > ------------------------------------------------------ > Other Internet Software Marketing Sites: > Leading Network Software Directory: http://www.serverfiles.com No.1 > Exchange Server Resource Site: http://www.msexchange.org Windows > Security Resource Site: http://www.windowsecurity.com/ Network Security > Library: http://www.secinf.net/ Windows 2000/NT Fax Solutions: > http://www.ntfaxfaq.com > ------------------------------------------------------ > You are currently subscribed to this ISAserver.org Discussion List as: > mike@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send a blank email to > $subst('Email.Unsub') > > ------------------------------------------------------ > List Archives: http://www.webelists.com/cgi/lyris.pl?enter=isalist > ISA Server Newsletter: http://www.isaserver.org/pages/newsletter.asp > ISA Server FAQ: http://www.isaserver.org/pages/larticle.asp?type=FAQ > ------------------------------------------------------ > Other Internet Software Marketing Sites: > Leading Network Software Directory: http://www.serverfiles.com > No.1 Exchange Server Resource Site: http://www.msexchange.org > Windows Security Resource Site: http://www.windowsecurity.com/ > Network Security Library: http://www.secinf.net/ > Windows 2000/NT Fax Solutions: http://www.ntfaxfaq.com > ------------------------------------------------------ > You are currently subscribed to this ISAserver.org Discussion List as: > strangconst@xxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe send a blank email to $subst('Email.Unsub') > > > ------------------------------------------------------ > List Archives: http://www.webelists.com/cgi/lyris.pl?enter=isalist > ISA Server Newsletter: http://www.isaserver.org/pages/newsletter.asp > ISA Server FAQ: http://www.isaserver.org/pages/larticle.asp?type=FAQ > ------------------------------------------------------ > Other Internet Software Marketing Sites: > Leading Network Software Directory: http://www.serverfiles.com > No.1 Exchange Server Resource Site: http://www.msexchange.org > Windows Security Resource Site: http://www.windowsecurity.com/ > Network Security Library: http://www.secinf.net/ > Windows 2000/NT Fax Solutions: http://www.ntfaxfaq.com > ------------------------------------------------------ > You are currently subscribed to this ISAserver.org Discussion List as: > tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe send a blank email to $subst('Email.Unsub') > > ------------------------------------------------------ > List Archives: http://www.webelists.com/cgi/lyris.pl?enter=isalist > ISA Server Newsletter: http://www.isaserver.org/pages/newsletter.asp > ISA Server FAQ: http://www.isaserver.org/pages/larticle.asp?type=FAQ > ------------------------------------------------------ > Other Internet Software Marketing Sites: > Leading Network Software Directory: http://www.serverfiles.com > No.1 Exchange Server Resource Site: http://www.msexchange.org > Windows Security Resource Site: http://www.windowsecurity.com/ > Network Security Library: http://www.secinf.net/ > Windows 2000/NT Fax Solutions: http://www.ntfaxfaq.com > ------------------------------------------------------ > You are currently subscribed to this ISAserver.org Discussion List as: > strangconst@xxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe send a blank email to $subst('Email.Unsub') > > > ------------------------------------------------------ > List Archives: http://www.webelists.com/cgi/lyris.pl?enter=isalist > ISA Server Newsletter: http://www.isaserver.org/pages/newsletter.asp > ISA Server FAQ: http://www.isaserver.org/pages/larticle.asp?type=FAQ > ------------------------------------------------------ > Other Internet Software Marketing Sites: > Leading Network Software Directory: http://www.serverfiles.com > No.1 Exchange Server Resource Site: http://www.msexchange.org > Windows Security Resource Site: http://www.windowsecurity.com/ > Network Security Library: http://www.secinf.net/ > Windows 2000/NT Fax Solutions: http://www.ntfaxfaq.com > ------------------------------------------------------ > You are currently subscribed to this ISAserver.org Discussion List as: strangconst@xxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe send a blank email to $subst('Email.Unsub')