Yeh; lots of folks omit "employee compensation" from their ROI calculations. "Lies, damn lies and statistics"... Jim Harrison MCP(NT4, W2K), A+, Network+, PCG http://www.microsoft.com/isaserver http://isaserver.org/Jim_Harrison http://isatools.org Read the help, books and articles! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Troy Radtke" <TRadtke@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2004 08:38 Subject: [isalist] Re: How it should be done http://www.ISAserver.org He keeps threatening me that he'll call his friends up and see if he can fire me out of the deck guns..... Yeah, just found out that my friend is using squid at his job, and I asked him why. His response (nutered to protect where he works): Free OS's and free software are cheaper for (us) to buy.... Until you ask how many people they have hired to make rules and test it..... -----Original Message----- From: Jim Harrison [mailto:jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2004 10:21 AM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] Re: How it should be done http://www.ISAserver.org Careful; I'm a retired squid (note that the real ones don't capitalize it). Jim Harrison MCP(NT4, W2K), A+, Network+, PCG http://www.microsoft.com/isaserver http://isaserver.org/Jim_Harrison http://isatools.org Read the help, books and articles! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Troy Radtke" <TRadtke@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2004 06:55 Subject: [isalist] Re: How it should be done http://www.ISAserver.org Arg, I work with a old Navey guy and he's brought that up every time there's an issue..... The only kind of squid I like is deep fried..... -----Original Message----- From: Greg Mulholland [mailto:greg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2004 8:52 AM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] Re: How it should be done http://www.ISAserver.org Wow I havent heard that word in ages Shawn Greg Mulholland Krystaltek Solutions greg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx www.krystaltek.com -----Original Message----- From: Quillman Shawn (RBNA/CSA1) * [mailto:Shawn.Quillman@xxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2004 11:40 PM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] Re: How it should be done http://www.ISAserver.org You forgot the "AND SWITCH OVER TO SQUID" part. ----- Shawn R. 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