Hi David, If you use L2TP/IPSec tunneling, I don't think you'll find a stronger VPN security solution, whether is MS's implementation or any other. And don't discount PPTP v2 that is included with Win2k. No one has compromised it; PPTP v1 got a black eye, but v2 is cool, just not entirely interoperable like L2TP/IPSec. HTH, Tom www.isaserver.org/shinder Thomas W Shinder, M.D., MCSE, MCT -----Original Message----- From: David Dellanno [mailto:david@xxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2001 5:43 PM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] How good is ISA's VPN compared with Shirva's VPN http://www.ISAserver.org Hi everyone, I was asked about the comparison with ISA's VPN security strength versus Shirva's VPN? Does Microsoft VPN use a creditable secure VPN technology that the IT industry recognize as a good a standard? If anyone has experienced with Shirva's VPN that could explain if there is a difference in security with Microsoft VPN? Thank you and advanced, David Dellanno ------------------------------------------------------ You are currently subscribed to this ISAserver.org Discussion List as: tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send a blank email to $subst('Email.Unsub')