http://www.ISAserver.org ------------------------------------------------------- OH! Yes, KCD -- that feature rOXEoRZ. Thomas W Shinder, M.D. Site: www.isaserver.org Blog: http://blogs.isaserver.org/shinder/ Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7 MVP -- ISA Firewalls > -----Original Message----- > From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jim Harrison > Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 1:39 PM > To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [isalist] Re: Hardware.... (cringe) ...firewall ? > > http://www.ISAserver.org > ------------------------------------------------------- > > Kerberos > Constrained > Delegation > > I have one customer that's playing with the RC bits and can't > get this to work. > The article you uncovered makes many things all more clearerest. > > ------------------------------------------------------- > Jim Harrison > MCP(NT4, W2K), A+, Network+, PCG > http://isaserver.org/Jim_Harrison/ > http://isatools.org > Read the help / books / articles! > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > -----Original Message----- > From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Thomas W Shinder > Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 11:21 > To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [isalist] Re: Hardware.... (cringe) ...firewall ? > > http://www.ISAserver.org > ------------------------------------------------------- > > KCD? > > Thomas W Shinder, M.D. > Site: www.isaserver.org > Blog: http://blogs.isaserver.org/shinder/ > Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7 > MVP -- ISA Firewalls > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jim Harrison > > Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 12:42 PM > > To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Subject: [isalist] Re: Hardware.... (cringe) ...firewall ? > > > > http://www.ISAserver.org > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > > ..and KCD! > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > Jim Harrison > > MCP(NT4, W2K), A+, Network+, PCG > > http://isaserver.org/Jim_Harrison/ > > http://isatools.org > > Read the help / books / articles! > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Thomas W Shinder > > Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 10:31 > > To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Subject: [isalist] Re: Hardware.... (cringe) ...firewall ? > > > > http://www.ISAserver.org > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > > We need to get the word out on Web Farm publishing. > > > > Looks like an F5/CCE killer to me! > > Tom > > > > Thomas W Shinder, M.D. > > Site: www.isaserver.org > > Blog: http://blogs.isaserver.org/shinder/ > > Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7 > > MVP -- ISA Firewalls > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jim Harrison > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 12:28 PM > > > To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > Subject: [isalist] Re: Hardware.... (cringe) ...firewall ? > > > > > > http://www.ISAserver.org > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > Wait 'till you play with ISA 2006. > > > I'll bet you have to change your Depends... > > > :-p > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > Jim Harrison > > > MCP(NT4, W2K), A+, Network+, PCG > > > http://isaserver.org/Jim_Harrison/ > > > http://isatools.org > > > Read the help / books / articles! > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Shane Mullins > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 10:12 > > > To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > Subject: [isalist] Re: Hardware.... (cringe) ...firewall ? > > > > > > http://www.ISAserver.org > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > Good Deal, > > > > > > We have used ISA since Proxy 2.0. I really liked the > > upgrade from > > > 2.0 to ISA 2000. But, I really really like ISA 2004. Some > > of the new > > > features are great, esp in the VPN areas, stateful packet > > inspection. > > > Also, I like > > > the way ISA integrates into AD, this is huge if you are a Windows > > > shop. > > > Also, there are some third party snap ins that are very helpful. > > > > > > Shane > > > > > > PS I also really enjoyed reading your ISA 2004 book. > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Thomas W Shinder" <tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx> > > > To: <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 10:33 AM > > > Subject: [isalist] Re: Hardware.... (cringe) ...firewall ? > > > > > > > > > http://www.ISAserver.org > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > Hi Shane, > > > > > > No problems, that's how I took it! :) > > > > > > The PIX tax reminds of when in the middle ages you could pay the > > > church to absolve you of your sins. The situation here is > > that they're > > > paying Cisco for their sin of slothfullness. Slothful in > that they > > > haven't spent the time and effort to understand real > > network security > > > and blindly pay a router and switch company big money to protect > > > comporate data (does anyone see the paradox in this?) > > > > > > Thanks! > > > Tom > > > > > > Thomas W Shinder, M.D. > > > Site: www.isaserver.org > > > Blog: http://blogs.isaserver.org/shinder/ > > > Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7 > > > MVP -- ISA Firewalls > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Shane Mullins > > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 7:56 AM > > > > To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > Subject: [isalist] Re: Hardware.... (cringe) ...firewall ? > > > > > > > > http://www.ISAserver.org > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > Hey Thomas, > > > > > > > > I meant that to be a plug for ISA 2004. I think > ISA 2004 is > > > > great. We have two ISA 2004 boxes that firewall and provide > > > > internet access for 3,500 machines. ISA 2004 has been > rock solid > > > > for us. ISA 2004 provides advanced logging and caching > functions > > > > that a "hardware" firewall cannot provide. I have > > nothing against > > > > unix, but ISA 2004 is great. > > > > We could have paid 50k for a single pix to provide firewall > > > > services. > > > > Then signed up for a 5k a year maintenance agreement (so we > > > could rcv > > > > updates). And all machines need updates, even "hardware" > > > > firewalls have an > > > > OS. And ISA still does so much more. > > > > > > > > Shane > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 6/19/06, Thomas W Shinder <tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > >> http://www.ISAserver.org > > > > >> ------------------------------------------------------- > > > > >> > > > > >> Yes, it's that good. Go Daddy and the ISP are clueless. > > > > Have you ever > > > > >> talked to your ISP's "tech guys" who make these > > > > recommendations? Let's > > > > >> just say that the typical interaction leaves you with the > > > > feeling that > > > > >> they're not on the top of the firewall and networking food > > > > chains :) > > > > >> > > > > >> Thomas W Shinder, M.D. > > > > >> Site: www.isaserver.org > > > > >> Blog: http://blogs.isaserver.org/shinder/ > > > > >> Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7 > > > > >> MVP -- ISA Firewalls > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > -----Original Message----- > > > > >> > From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > >> > [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of > > > Shane Mullins > > > > >> > Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 1:10 PM > > > > >> > To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > >> > Subject: [isalist] Re: Hardware.... (cringe) ...firewall ? > > > > >> > > > > > >> > http://www.ISAserver.org > > > > >> > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > > >> > > > > > >> > ISA 2K4 is really good? There is an eval version. > Maybe he > > > > >> > would let you try that. > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > Shane > > > > >> > > > > > >> > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > >> > From: "G.Waleed Kavalec" <kavalec@xxxxxxxxx> > > > > >> > To: <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > >> > Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 1:08 PM > > > > >> > Subject: [isalist] Hardware.... (cringe) ...firewall ? > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > http://www.ISAserver.org > > > > >> > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > > >> > > My boss has been talking to our ISP and also to > some folks > > > > >> > at GoDaddy. > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > Both use - and recommend - hardware firewall solutions. > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > What do I tell him? He is poised to make one of those > > > > classic PHB > > > > >> > > decisions. > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > (currently on ISA 2K) > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > -- > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > G. 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