The exact details of what "hardened" means is up to each OEM. MS gave each of them the same recommended / supported hardening techniques and the select the ones they want. Jim Harrison MCP(NT4, W2K), A+, Network+, PCG http://www.microsoft.com/isaserver http://isaserver.org/Jim_Harrison http://isatools.org Read the help, books and articles! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Troy Radtke" <TRadtke@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2004 11:42 Subject: [isalist] RE: HP.com - HP ProLiant DL320 Firewall/VPN/Cache S erve r - Support & Documents http://www.ISAserver.org Really? When I read the description I though it included the OS/software..... bummer...... Anyone got a clue as the what a "hardened" version of Windows would be? Just services turned off or something? -----Original Message----- From: Gregory.Crockett@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:Gregory.Crockett@xxxxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2004 1:15 PM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] RE: HP.com - HP ProLiant DL320 Firewall/VPN/Cache Serve r - Support & Documents http://www.ISAserver.org $1.1k is just the hardware (ATA no CD/Floppy) without OS or ISA2k4. Hardware OS and ISA2k4 start at $2.3k. _____ From: Troy Radtke [mailto:TRadtke@xxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2004 12:38 PM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] RE: HP.com - HP ProLiant DL320 Firewall/VPN/Cache Serve r - Support & Documents http://www.ISAserver.org They've been running side banner ads for this for a few weeks now. Starting price was like $1.1k for everything, which looks dang nice to me..... (isa, win2k, raid 1 drives, "pre-hardened", rackmount) -----Original Message----- From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2004 12:26 PM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] HP.com - HP ProLiant DL320 Firewall/VPN/Cache Server - Support & Documents http://www.ISAserver.org Good ISA firewall information here: HP.com - HP ProLiant DL320 Firewall/VPN/Cache Server - Support & Documents: http://h18000.www1.hp.com/products/servers/software/microsoft/ISAserver/docu mentation.html <http://h18000.www1.hp.com/products/servers/software/microsoft/ISAserver/doc umentation.html> ------------------------------------------------------ List Archives: http://www.webelists.com/cgi/lyris.pl?enter=isalist ISA Server Newsletter: http://www.isaserver.org/pages/newsletter.asp ISA Server FAQ: http://www.isaserver.org/pages/larticle.asp?type=FAQ ------------------------------------------------------ Other Internet Software Marketing Sites: World of Windows Networking: http://www.windowsnetworking.com Leading Network Software Directory: http://www.serverfiles.com No.1 Exchange Server Resource Site: http://www.msexchange.org Windows Security Resource Site: http://www.windowsecurity.com/ Network Security Library: http://www.secinf.net/ Windows 2000/NT Fax Solutions: http://www.ntfaxfaq.com ------------------------------------------------------ You are currently subscribed to this ISAserver.org Discussion List as: tradtke@xxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe visit http://www.webelists.com/cgi/lyris.pl?enter=isalist Report abuse to listadmin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ------------------------------------------------------ List Archives: http://www.webelists.com/cgi/lyris.pl?enter=isalist ISA Server Newsletter: http://www.isaserver.org/pages/newsletter.asp ISA Server FAQ: http://www.isaserver.org/pages/larticle.asp?type=FAQ ------------------------------------------------------ Other Internet Software Marketing Sites: World of Windows Networking: http://www.windowsnetworking.com Leading Network Software Directory: http://www.serverfiles.com No.1 Exchange Server Resource Site: http://www.msexchange.org Windows Security Resource Site: http://www.windowsecurity.com/ Network Security Library: http://www.secinf.net/ Windows 2000/NT Fax Solutions: http://www.ntfaxfaq.com ------------------------------------------------------ You are currently subscribed to this ISAserver.org Discussion List as: gregory.crockett@xxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe visit http://www.webelists.com/cgi/lyris.pl?enter=isalist Report abuse to listadmin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ------------------------------------------------------ List Archives: http://www.webelists.com/cgi/lyris.pl?enter=isalist ISA Server Newsletter: http://www.isaserver.org/pages/newsletter.asp ISA Server FAQ: http://www.isaserver.org/pages/larticle.asp?type=FAQ ------------------------------------------------------ Other Internet Software Marketing Sites: World of Windows Networking: http://www.windowsnetworking.com Leading Network Software Directory: http://www.serverfiles.com No.1 Exchange Server Resource Site: http://www.msexchange.org Windows Security Resource Site: http://www.windowsecurity.com/ Network Security Library: http://www.secinf.net/ Windows 2000/NT Fax Solutions: http://www.ntfaxfaq.com ------------------------------------------------------ You are currently subscribed to this ISAserver.org Discussion List as: tradtke@xxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe visit http://www.webelists.com/cgi/lyris.pl?enter=isalist Report abuse to listadmin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ------------------------------------------------------ List Archives: http://www.webelists.com/cgi/lyris.pl?enter=isalist ISA Server Newsletter: http://www.isaserver.org/pages/newsletter.asp ISA Server FAQ: http://www.isaserver.org/pages/larticle.asp?type=FAQ ------------------------------------------------------ Other Internet Software Marketing Sites: World of Windows Networking: http://www.windowsnetworking.com Leading Network Software Directory: http://www.serverfiles.com No.1 Exchange Server Resource Site: http://www.msexchange.org Windows Security Resource Site: http://www.windowsecurity.com/ Network Security Library: http://www.secinf.net/ Windows 2000/NT Fax Solutions: http://www.ntfaxfaq.com ------------------------------------------------------ You are currently subscribed to this ISAserver.org Discussion List as: jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe visit http://www.webelists.com/cgi/lyris.pl?enter=isalist Report abuse to listadmin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx