I'm posting to that list now. Sometime I feel like I'd the visiting shrink at Broadmoor when dealing with these "open a port" dolts who use their ignorance of the product to 'dis it. Thanks! Tom www.isaserver.org/shinder Tom and Deb Shinder's Configuring ISA Server 2004 http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7 MVP -- ISA Firewalls -----Original Message----- From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 4:54 PM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] RE: FYI - Current 'discussion' on another list about Firewalls - any comments? http://www.ISAserver.org Hi Spence, What list were those crusing losers from? Sounds like that need a resume and a reality check. Thanks! Tom www.isaserver.org/shinder Tom and Deb Shinder's Configuring ISA Server 2004 http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7 MVP -- ISA Firewalls -----Original Message----- From: Spencer Read (Nemesis) [mailto:ser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 4:34 PM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] FYI - Current 'discussion' on another list about Firewalls - any comments? http://www.ISAserver.org Original Thread > I know this is a frequently asked question, but as we're a smaller shop than most, I just thought I'd ask this specific question: > Our Netscreen 10 firewall has been really good, but it's been End of Lifed. My vendor is trying to sell me on a new Netscreen 5GT to replace it. We have only about 20 users nowadays but I want > to be sure I'm getting a darned good firewall as security is still important to us. I tend to like Netscreen but want to be sure I'm not being penny wise and pound foolish. > Anyone have any feelings on whether the 5GT is lacking any really important features that we'd need from a firewall? First Reply > Yeah. It's not ISA. ;-) Second Reply > I think that I would give up touching any computer for the rest of my life before I used ISA as my firewall. Another Reply > ISA, get real, that is a software ploy of a firewall, easly circumvented. > Usually used in hotels to try and keep security tight, it doesnt do all that well tho. If you want a real Firewall, get Checkpoint... ...Spence ;) ------------------------------------------------------ List Archives: http://www.webelists.com/cgi/lyris.pl?enter=isalist ISA Server Newsletter: http://www.isaserver.org/pages/newsletter.asp ISA Server FAQ: http://www.isaserver.org/pages/larticle.asp?type=FAQ ------------------------------------------------------ Other Internet Software Marketing Sites: World of Windows Networking: http://www.windowsnetworking.com Leading Network Software Directory: http://www.serverfiles.com No.1 Exchange Server Resource Site: http://www.msexchange.org Windows Security Resource Site: http://www.windowsecurity.com/ Network Security Library: http://www.secinf.net/ Windows 2000/NT Fax Solutions: http://www.ntfaxfaq.com ------------------------------------------------------ You are currently subscribed to this ISAserver.org Discussion List as: tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe visit http://www.webelists.com/cgi/lyris.pl?enter=isalist Report abuse to listadmin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ------------------------------------------------------ List Archives: http://www.webelists.com/cgi/lyris.pl?enter=isalist ISA Server Newsletter: http://www.isaserver.org/pages/newsletter.asp ISA Server FAQ: http://www.isaserver.org/pages/larticle.asp?type=FAQ ------------------------------------------------------ Other Internet Software Marketing Sites: World of Windows Networking: http://www.windowsnetworking.com Leading Network Software Directory: http://www.serverfiles.com No.1 Exchange Server Resource Site: http://www.msexchange.org Windows Security Resource Site: http://www.windowsecurity.com/ Network Security Library: http://www.secinf.net/ Windows 2000/NT Fax Solutions: http://www.ntfaxfaq.com ------------------------------------------------------ You are currently subscribed to this ISAserver.org Discussion List as: tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe visit http://www.webelists.com/cgi/lyris.pl?enter=isalist Report abuse to listadmin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx