Re: Difference between MSDN version and RTM version of ISA 2004
- From: "Jim Harrison" <Jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 22:13:57 -0700
The key phrase in your missive was "development".
MSDN bits are not to be used to "serve your company", but to allow you
to work with the product to learn and develop your deployment / add-on.
The EULA term "production" is not as you describe, where an MVP or MSD
is working towards a whitepaper / deployment solution, but where a
business is using it to serve their office web site / browsing needs.
I've had to disappoint more than one "customer" when they wanted to
"extend the timeout", or wanted to get PSS support for MSDN
subscriptions.
The support for MSDN is very limited and assumes that the subscriber has
something more than a minimum of knowledge.
-----Original Message-----
From: Thor (Hammer of God) [mailto:thor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2005 8:28 PM
To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
Subject: [isalist] Re: Difference between MSDN version and RTM version
of ISA 2004
http://www.ISAserver.org
Not to sound as if I disagree, but one should note that while comparing
"MSDN" to "RTM" may seem analogous (in its true sense), they should not
be
considered "identical."
MSDN is a subscription to products; RTM is a product version. The RTM
version will always be thus, while the bits on the MSDN subscription are
updated to include slipstreamed service packs and hotfixes (like XP PRO
SP1a
or SQL 2000 SP3) as they become available. In regard to ISA 2004,
whoever
said to "wait for the update" had it backwards- the RTM version was
available for general distribution far before it was published in the
MSDN.
The other poster who said not to use the MSDN bits for production, as if
it
was not stable, un-supported, or in some way to always be assumed as
"beta,"
was also incorrect-- unless, of course, the version included in the MSDN
subscription was a beta to begin with.
Also, there is a caveat to the "not supported on production servers"
EULA
for many of the platforms included in one's MSDN subscription: MCP's or
Channel Partners (which I am) can use the volume licenses (based on
tier) to
install the software in "production" environments when the environment
exists to develop solutions for the company's clients.
Just had to add my .02....
T
----- Original Message -----
From: Jim Harrison
To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2005 7:19 PM
Subject: [isalist] Re: Difference between MSDN version and RTM version
of
ISA 2004
http://www.ISAserver.org
MSDN version is not supported on production servers (part of the EULA
you
agree to when you install).
Functionally, they're identical.
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Jim Harrison
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http://isaserver.org/Jim_Harrison/
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Read the help / books / articles!
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From: michel girgis [mailto:michel_girgis@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2005 16:18
To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
Subject: [isalist] Re: Difference between MSDN version and RTM version
of
ISA 2004
http://www.ISAserver.org
yes you should wait
tim S <tim724342@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
http://www.ISAserver.org
I was wondering if there is any difference between MSDN and RTM release
of
ISA 2004.
I already setup the ISA 2004 using MSDN version and in the process of
applying for a license for the production environment. So I was
wondering
if I should wait until I get the RTM copy.
Thanks
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