Hey everyone, I've wondered from time to time how I might be able to test all the dreaded PPPoE problems people seem to experience without having to move to a part of the State that offers PPPoE DSL connections. I think I may have figured something out. I'll be giving it a try next week. The next trick will be to see if after connecting to the virtual PPPoE server if I'll be able to set the default gateway on the machine so that it will route to the Internet via a "real" ISA firewall. PPPoE Testbed: http://www.nat32.com/htm/testbed.htm HTH, Tom