Hi Amy, That's great! I need to do the same thing. I just need to figure out how to do something that people would pay for. :) Tom www.isaserver.org/shinder Tom and Deb Shinder's Configuring ISA Server 2004 http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7 MVP -- ISA Firewalls -----Original Message----- From: Amy Babinchak [mailto:amy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 10:18 AM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] RE: Chapter 6: Configuring Firewalls http://www.ISAserver.org You could do what I'm doing today. Paperwork in the office and avoidance thereof. BTW, I've hired my first employee. He starts on Monday. Five years in business and I didn't think I would ever do this but I decided that someday I like to take a vacation, do less tech support and retire (someday). I'm terrified and excited all at once. Amy -----Original Message----- From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 10:16 AM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] RE: Chapter 6: Configuring Firewalls http://www.ISAserver.org Hi Amy, Buy then, what would we do with our time? :-) Thanks! Tom www.isaserver.org/shinder Tom and Deb Shinder's Configuring ISA Server 2004 http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7 MVP -- ISA Firewalls -----Original Message----- From: Amy Babinchak [mailto:amy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 9:11 AM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] RE: Chapter 6: Configuring Firewalls http://www.ISAserver.org Jim, If answering the same old questions is driving you to drink, then it's time to take a break. I know you're a list junky when I get more posts from you in my inbox than from Susan Bradley. Tom's running a close third. I getting worried about you guys. Amy -----Original Message----- From: Jim Harrison [mailto:Jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 9:42 AM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] RE: Chapter 6: Configuring Firewalls http://www.ISAserver.org Absolutely, positively correct, Tom! To add to the confusion, it's also a term perpetuated by router admins that are used to configuring router ACLs (I need to configure an any, any, all, all rule; how do I do that?). I recently had to try explaining ISA behavior to a guy who thought that the %WinDir%\system32\drivers\etc\services file was the definitive list for IP-based services. ..I have only two rules for alcohol consumption now: 1 - only in groups of one or more 2 - only to excess Jim Harrison MCP(NT4, W2K), A+, Network+, PCG http://isaserver.org/Jim_Harrison/ http://isatools.org Read the help / books / articles! -----Original Message----- From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 6:06 AM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] RE: Chapter 6: Configuring Firewalls http://www.ISAserver.org Hi Ara, The Open Port[TM] (Patent Pending) button is a joke. The term "open port" doesn't mean anything and is a term used by people who don't understand how TCP/IP works. The term "open port" implies that a firewall is like a pegboard, where there are "holes" that are "punched" out, and then "stuff" flows through those holes. Thanks! Tom www.isaserver.org/shinder Tom and Deb Shinder's Configuring ISA Server 2004 http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7 MVP -- ISA Firewalls -----Original Message----- From: Ara.A [mailto:ara@xxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 7:52 AM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] RE: Chapter 6: Configuring Firewalls http://www.ISAserver.org Hi tom, Do you have a link with full info about the open button? Thank You -----Original Message----- From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: October 20, 2004 8:48 AM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] Chapter 6: Configuring Firewalls http://www.ISAserver.org Looks like the Exchange team needs to convince the ISA team to license my Open Port[TM] (Patent Pending) button: Chapter 6: Configuring Firewalls: http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/exchange/guides/E2k3FrontBa ck/75555003-90f3-4dcf-b04f-cda1b80e477c.mspx I'm also thinking of bundling a clue-stick with the button :-) Tom www.isaserver.org/shinder Tom and Deb Shinder's Configuring ISA Server 2004 http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7 MVP -- ISA Firewalls ------------------------------------------------------ List Archives: http://www.webelists.com/cgi/lyris.pl?enter=isalist ISA Server Newsletter: http://www.isaserver.org/pages/newsletter.asp ISA Server FAQ: http://www.isaserver.org/pages/larticle.asp?type=FAQ 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