Hey guys, Here's a very nice utilty that can help you open and keep open a VPN connection even when a machine is not logged on. It will solve many of the issues that have come up on this list over the last few years (like putting a domain member computer on a DMZ in front of the ISA firewall: AutoRasDial: http://www.zen9156.zen.co.uk/Programs/AutoRasDial.htm#Overview HTH, Tom