[isalist] Re: Access Rule Issue...

  • From: Raj.Periyasamy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 14:05:02 -0500

Rule 1: Deny User A - All out bound protocols

Rule 2: Allow User A - Only access to allowed URL set.

 

In that order, what happens to user A when accessing a site in the
allowed URL set? The user matches Rule 1, will ISA now deny the traffic
and stop processing further rules? Or will Rule 2 be processed and user
allowed access?

 

 

 

 

 

Regards, 

Raj

 

From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Jim Harrison <Jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 1:22 PM
To: "isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [isalist] Re: Access Rule Issue...

 

ISA will trigger the rule based on the destination as well.

If you use the same criteria in the allow and deny rules, you're not
thinking it through clearly.

 

 

JimmyJoeBob Alooba

Office 2007 on Win7 Beta

 

 

 

From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Raj.Periyasamy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 8:57 AM
To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [isalist] Re: Access Rule Issue...

 

In his case he has created a User specific allow rule  and a Users
specific deny rule. If the user ID matches the criteria for the deny
rule, will ISA go to the next rule?

 

Regards, 

Raj

 

From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Jim Harrison <Jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 11:22 AM
To: "isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [isalist] Re: Access Rule Issue...

 

Not true; nor is it that simple.

In general, you want your rules configured as:

 

Anonymous

  Deny

  Allow

Authenticaticated

  Deny

  Allow

 

JimmyJoeBob Alooba

Office 2007 on Win7 Beta

JimmyJoeBobAlooba

 

 

From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Raj.Periyasamy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 7:27 AM
To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [isalist] Re: Access Rule Issue...

 

Have you checked if the rules are in the right order? Allow rule should
come before deny rules.

 

Regards, 

Raj

 

From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Tom Rogers <trogers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 10:19 AM
To: <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [isalist] Re: Access Rule Issue...

 

http://www.ISAserver.org 
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Ok, here is what I did. 

I created a URL set of the sites that I need to allow. 

I created Rule 1 as follows: 

ACTION: Allow (and log) 
PROTOCOLS: HTTP/HTTPS 
FROM: Internal 
TO: (my URL Set) 
USERS: (my specific user) 
SCHEDULE: Always 
CONTENT TYPES: All content type 

I created Rule 2 as follows: 

ACTION: Deny (redirect to custom page and log) 
PROTOCOLS: All Outbound 
FROM: Internal 
TO: External 
USERS: (my specific user) 
SCHEDULE: Always 
CONTENT TYPES: All content type 

SSL sites are still not allowed, so what do I need to change to allow 
this user to access the necessary SSL sites? 

-Tom 


> -----Original Message----- 
> From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
> On Behalf Of Jim Harrison 
> Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 8:18 PM 
> To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> Subject: [isalist] Re: Access Rule Issue... 
> 
> http://www.ISAserver.org 
> ------------------------------------------------------- 
> 
> A1 - you must not use name-based destination in a rule that includes 
"all 
> protocols". Name-based rules are ONLY for HTTP and HTTPS. 
> A2 - you cannot use URL sets for SSL connections because unlike CERN 
HTTP 
> and CERN FTP traffic, ISA never has access to the entire URL for HTTPS
> tunnels. 
> 
> You can create two rules: 
> 1. allow HTTP/HTTPS from to specific destinations 
> 2. deny all 
> 
> JimmyJoeBob Alooba 
> Office 2007 on Win7 Beta 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
> On Behalf Of Tom Rogers 
> Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 9:12 AM 
> To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> Subject: [isalist] Access Rule Issue... 
> 
> http://www.ISAserver.org 
> ------------------------------------------------------- 
> 
> I am using ISA 2006 SP-1 on a W2K3 SP1 server. 
> 
> I created an access rule for a specific user that denies all traffic 
> from internal to external, except a list of a few websites that I put 
> into a URL Set. This works just fine, except when it comes to 
accessing 
> https websites and I cannot figure it out. 
> 
> If the user tries to go to any website outsite of the URL Set 
contents, 
> I redirect to a custom page stating that the website is not allowed 
from 
> this computer. For example, if the user tries to go to cnn.com, my 
> custom denial page displays. 
> 
> But with the HTTPS sites failure for the allowed sites, it does not go
> to my custom page, but just tells me IE cannot display the webpage. 
> 
> For example - in my URL Set I have a website 
> HTTP://WWW.EXCELLUSBCBS.COM/* but when you go to this root website it 
> changes to https://www.excellusbcbs.com/wps/portal/xl in a web 
browser. 
> So then I put that new address into my URL Set as well. I don't get 
the 
> redirect page, but I just get an error stating IE cannot display the 
> webpage. 
> 
> Why is this? I have allowed that specific URL in my URL Set. 
> 
> TIA, 
> 
> -Tom Rogers 
> 
> 
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