Pranav. Thanks for this one. Certainly we'll keep an eye on the GPS ground, although to be honest I think Neil's message content is a bit over the top in terms of what is "Factually" correct or otherwise. It's always been my view that GPS products should be marketed responsibly, because unlike other technologies an incorrect choice could very seriously impact upon someones safety. As ever when you get competetion this kind of thing always happens, and the people who get most het up are usually the people who sell the products not necessarily those who use them and can objectively provide factually based comparisons. nyway Brian and -----Original Message----- From: Pranav Lal <pranav.lal@xxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 2:00 AM To: infotech@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <infotech@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [infotech] FW: [Wfaccess] review of way finder access Hi all, In the light of the below message, we may want to do a follow up in the next issue of Infotech. -----Original Message----- From: wfaccess-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:wfaccess-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Neil Barnfather - TalkNav Sent: Friday, November 28, 2008 10:24 PM To: 'Wayfinder Access e-mail forum' Cc: 'Niklas Wilhelmsson'; 'Albin Olofsson' Subject: Re: [Wfaccess] review of way finder access Mike, I should also point out that Mike's review whilst ignoring the point of it's undoubtable bias also was written based on a Beta version of WFA v1.10, this means that he's written this and published it for all to read on a product that hadn't even been released to the public at the time and hadn't even had it's first bug shake down. I've pointed this out to Wayfinder as there are in fact some complete inaccuracies, such as Mike states that if you loose GPRS coverage that you loose your route in it's entirety, this is not the case, nor has it ever been with WFA, nor to the point WFN. This thus is liable in terms of the written word is factually incorrect. I'm not surprised Mike's not updated his review as it might mean he might have to in fact say something positive about WFA. To be honest it's published documents like this which might serve to put off potential clients of Wayfinder Access, and I'd really like to see Wayfinder take a more proactive stance on getting factually incorrect reviews removed, especially when they are in such direct exposure locations. Neil Barnfather WFA List Administrator Talks Users Host Don't forget TalkNav which is a Nuance accessibility and Wayfinder Access software dealer and distributor, for all your product needs with instant product activation and an online store supporting British Sterling, US Dollars and Euros. www.talknav.net +44 161 277 7997 service@xxxxxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: wfaccess-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:wfaccess-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mike Arrigo Sent: 26 November 2008 01:05 To: Wayfinder Access e-mail forum; darren_g_harris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [Wfaccess] review of way finder access Hi everyone, thought some of you might find this interesting, it's a review of way finder access done by Mike May. http://senderogroup.com/wfreview.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: "All formats" <allformats@xxxxxxxxx> To: <darren_g_harris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "'Wayfinder Access e-mail forum'" <wfaccess@xxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 8:30 AM Subject: Re: [Wfaccess] Wayfinder Access As long as you don't install any Facebook app, not sure if there is one, but there is for Youtube and that don't work with Talks. But, yes, if you use the mobile version of Facebook, it is fine. It is scaled down a bit but, you can do most things like: Update your status; read emails; read notifications; see pictures if you have some sight; add friends etc. I use it loads. Paul Hopkins - Manager (All Formats) Queen Alexandra College Court Oak Road Harborne BIRMINGHAM B17 9TG Tel: 0121 428 5018 Fax: 0121 428 5048 E-mail: allformats@xxxxxxxxx Web: www.allformats.org.uk Allformats - Braille, Audio, Digital and Large Print Resources for Access by People with a Visual Impairment. ***** Confidentiality and Disclaimer: This email and its attachments are intended for the addressee(s) only and may be confidential or the subject of legal privilege. If this email and its attachments have come to you in error you must take no action based on them, nor must you retain them, copy them, distribute them or disclose their contents to any other person. Please contact the sender immediately to notify them of the error. Opinions, conclusions and other information in this e-mail that do not relate to the official business of Queen Alexandra College shall be understood as neither given nor endorsed by it. ***** -----Original Message----- From: wfaccess-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:wfaccess-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of darren_g_harris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: 24 November 2008 13:51 To: Wayfinder Access e-mail forum Subject: Re: [Wfaccess] Wayfinder Access I didn't think face book was accessible? -original message- Subject: Re: [Wfaccess] Wayfinder Access From: "All formats" <allformats@xxxxxxxxx> Date: 11/24/2008 11.08 am Agreed. I do have a data plan but, only because I use Facebook and other Internet sites and music downloads etc. Paul Hopkins - Manager (All Formats) Queen Alexandra College Court Oak Road Harborne BIRMINGHAM B17 9TG Tel: 0121 428 5018 Fax: 0121 428 5048 E-mail: allformats@xxxxxxxxx Web: www.allformats.org.uk Allformats - Braille, Audio, Digital and Large Print Resources for Access by People with a Visual Impairment. ***** Confidentiality and Disclaimer: This email and its attachments are intended for the addressee(s) only and may be confidential or the subject of legal privilege. If this email and its attachments have come to you in error you must take no action based on them, nor must you retain them, copy them, distribute them or disclose their contents to any other person. Please contact the sender immediately to notify them of the error. Opinions, conclusions and other information in this e-mail that do not relate to the official business of Queen Alexandra College shall be understood as neither given nor endorsed by it. ***** -----Original Message----- From: wfaccess-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:wfaccess-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jackie Cairns Sent: 22 November 2008 10:22 To: Wayfinder Access e-mail forum Subject: Re: [Wfaccess] Wayfinder Access Hi Ibrahim I understand what you mean, but my experience thus far with Vodafone is that it costs pennies rather than pounds, and works ok with a non-contract phone without add-ons. Jackie Cairns Braille Support Adviser Email: jackie.cairns@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sight and Sound Technology Welton House North Wing Summerhouse Road Moulton Park Northampton NN3 6WD Tel: 01604 798024 Web: www.sightandsound.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: wfaccess-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:wfaccess-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ibrahim Gucukoglu Sent: 21 November 2008 21:34 To: Wayfinder Access e-mail forum Subject: Re: [Wfaccess] Wayfinder Access Hi Jacky. It depends on which network you are gunning for though. When I first started using WayFinder Access, I was charged £5 per megabyte of data I downloaded or uploaded. As a result of my previous network's inflexibility therefore, I was forced to switch providers. The aim of my message was simply to warn Eleanor that she should check costs and ensure that she wasn't paying over the odds. The amount of data WayFinder uses is small, but as I don't know what she intends using features wise, it would be difficult to say how much the costs involved could be. All the best, Ibrahim Gucukoglu ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jackie Cairns" <jackie.cairns@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: "Eleanor Burke" <eleanorburke@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "Wayfinder Access e-mail forum" <wfaccess@xxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 9:10 PM Subject: Re: [Wfaccess] Wayfinder Access > Hi Eleanor > > I can confirm that it doesn't cost much though, and probably sounds > more expensive than it really is. I've done it with a Pay-As-You-Talk > Sim card, and it didn't cost much. > > Jackie Cairns > Braille Support Adviser > Email: jackie.cairns@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sight and Sound Technology > Welton House North Wing Summerhouse Road Moulton Park Northampton > NN3 6WD > Tel: 01604 798024 > Web: www.sightandsound.co.uk > > -----Original Message----- > From: wfaccess-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:wfaccess-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] > On Behalf Of Eleanor Burke > Sent: 21 November 2008 18:10 > To: Wayfinder Access e-mail forum > Subject: [Wfaccess] Wayfinder Access > > to use Wfaccess on my mobile phone must I be connected to the Internet > all the time? > > Eleanor > > > -- > I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. > We are a community of 5.6 million users fighting spam. > SPAMfighter has removed 753 of my spam emails to date. > Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len > > The Professional version does not have this message > > > _______________________________________________ > WFAccess mailing list > WFAccess@xxxxxxxxxxx > http://wfusers.com/mailman/listinfo/wfaccess > > Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: > eHosting Limitted: http://www.ehosting.com/ and Talknav Inc. > http://www.talknav.net/ > > ______________________________________________________________________ > This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. > For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email > ______________________________________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > WFAccess mailing list > WFAccess@xxxxxxxxxxx > http://wfusers.com/mailman/listinfo/wfaccess > > Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: > eHosting Limitted: http://www.ehosting.com/ and Talknav Inc. > http://www.talknav.net/ > _______________________________________________ WFAccess mailing list WFAccess@xxxxxxxxxxx http://wfusers.com/mailman/listinfo/wfaccess Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: eHosting Limitted: http://www.ehosting.com/ and Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/ ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. 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