[icon-discuss] ICON does have a 30 days Money Back guarrantee!
- From: Guido Corona <guidoc@xxxxxxxxxx>
- To: icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 08:07:25 -0500
Hi Jennie, and thanks for the clarification. . . I also was pretty sure
that Levelstar has a 30 days money back policy on ICON and was scratching
my head furiously just now. . . . but could not find it on levelstar.com.
Perhaps the gang at Levelstar can update the website accordingly.
Saluti,
G.
Guido Dante Corona
IBM Research,
Human Ability & Accessibility Center, (HA&AC)
Austin Tx.
Phone: 512. 838. 9735.
Email: guidoc@xxxxxxxxxxx
Web: http://www.ibm.com/able
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jenny Axler <jaxler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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[icon-discuss] Re: Question about the noise level of the keys
As a matter of fact, levelStar does have a 30 day guarantee.
jenny
On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 14:15:11 -0700, Rob Lambert wrote:
>I didn't realize that LevelStar had no 30 day money back guarantee. Wow.
Thanks
>for the info on that (this definitely changes things - good thing I
haven't sat
>down with either of the two units yet LOL). > From:
chase.crispin@xxxxxxxxx >
>Date: Thu, 1 Jan 1970 12:30:37 -0600 > To: icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >
CC: >
>Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: Question about the noise level of the keys >
> No
>no no no no no. Look at a Braille Plus first. None of my keys on either
of >
>my units are like that. If you buy an Icon and don't like it for some
bazaar
>reason, you are > stuck with it. If you don't like the Braille Plus for
some
>strange reason, you can send it back > as long as you have had it 30
days or
>less. > On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 20:36:45 -0700, Rob Lambert wrote: > > > >
>IF
>it's that bad, maybe I should look closer at the Icon then...what do >
>you
>think? Are the rubber keys also bad? > From: > >David.Tanner@xxxxxxxxxxx
> To:
>icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; > >richard@xxxxxxxxxxxx > Date: Wed, 16 Apr
2008
>22:33:13 -0500 > Subject: > >[icon-discuss] Re: Question about the noise
level
>of the keys > > I > >don't think that the sound is as critical as it is
that
>the design > > >and materials of the Braille keys needs a huge change.
It is
>not > > >possible to type on the Braille Plus nearly as quickly or
accurately
>> > >as on most Braille keyboards. And, I don't know what the Braille >
>
>>keys now are exactly like, but the Braille keys on the unit that I > >
>have
>are mushey, wobbely, and both feel and sound cheap and poorly > > >made.
I
>don't think I have seen as poor quality Braille keys on any > > >other
Braille
>device in a long time. And, I cannot believe that > this > >keyboard is
going
>to hold up very well, and is not designed in > such a > >way to make it
>possible to type very fast when; as has been > said > >before on this
list; if
>you don't press in just the right place > the > >keys won't register
correctly
>or at all. > > I had my Braille Plus > >less than three weeks and had
to send
>it back > to APH to have the > >keyboard adjusted, and it really needed
more,
>but > I didn't want to > >wait an additional 3 weeks to a month for it
to go >
>to Colorado to get > >that done. The bottom line is that the material >
used
>to make the > >keys on the Braille keyboard need to be changed, > and
>something about > >how the keyboard is designed needs changed. > Since
I
>don't know what > >they are doing below the surface of the > unit. The
>problem is that > >the current design is not any place close > to what
it
>should be when > >you consider how many people type on a > Braille
keyboard
>because of > >their habits formed back when they were > using a Perkins
>
>>Braillewriter. > > > > > > > David Tanner > Rehabilitation >
>Program
>Specialist 3 > Assistive Technology Specialist > Assistive > >Technology
>Department > MN State Services f/t Blind > Office- > >651-642-0795 Cell-
>651-270-2233 > Skype name: dtat100 > > > >>> > >richard@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>4/16/2008 9:24 PM >>> > Hi, > It isn't any louder > >than a standard
keyboard.
> At least, none of > the > keyboards I've > >used. > > And, as someone
else
>pointed out, the ADA would not allow > >someone > to be that > picky. >
> I
>took notes on a slate and stylus > >all the way through a Masters >
program
>and > not one professor > >complained about the noise and the clicking
of a >
>slate and > stylus > >is way more annoying than the keys on the Braille
Plus.
>> > So, go > >order it and use the 30 day return policy to find all
this >
>out for > > >yourself. You won't be sorry you did. > > Richard > >
>
>_____ > >> > From: icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >
>>[mailto:icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rob > Lambert >
>
>>Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 6:40 PM > To: >
>icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: Question > >about the noise level of the >
keys
>> > > > Understand that I have > >not actually seen the unit myself,
but I
>> remember > having a > >professor who forbade laptops (except for me
because
>I was > a > > >special case) because she thought the keyboard was too
noisy -
>she > > >hated the > "click click click" sound. Essentailly I didn't
want a
>set > >of keys > that > would be so loud that they'd annoy a teacher
while a
>> >student was > trying to > take notes from a lecture situation. > > >
> >
>_____ > > From: ljgehres@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > To: >
>icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: Question > >about the noise level of the
> keys
>> Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 16:38:34 > >-0700 > > > Hmm, I must be unique
as I
>think the Braille+ keys are > >quiet, > especially > compared with the
Braille
>'n Speak. > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > From: Rob
Lambert >
>><mailto:rml695@xxxxxxxxxxx> > To: icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent:
>
>>Wednesday, April 16, 2008 3:41 PM > Subject: [icon-discuss] Question >
>about
>the noise level of the keys > > I was curious. Several people on > >the
list
>noted that the keys on > the Braille > Plus are noisy, both > >the
rubber and
>plastic keys. Is the noise > level the > same on the > >Icon or is it
quieter?
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