[ian-reeds-games] Re: Tactical Battle 1.11 dev 5
- From: "Allan Thompson" <allan1.thompson@xxxxxxx>
- To: <ian-reeds-games@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2013 13:24:18 -0500
Yeah, I see what you mean now.
Ugh, trying to make ai do what you want is tough. I mean, I suppose Ian could
rig up a ai path follow kind of thing, but in the end, it would be just crazy
to deal with, wouldn't it? I would rather he worked harder on the ai to become
more and more "smart" then trying to detail units every move.
Maybe instead of a path, they could have a marker on a unit/structure or
terrain that pings them. The ai bad guys detect it, and they head towards it at
the shortest route possible. To either go to it, or destroy it. I don't know,
that is just how I look on the whole matter.
I am having trouble with units that have more then one type of attack. The ai
ships have long range small damage weapons that they constantly use. They only
use the bigger damaging, but shorter ranged weapons when the player unit is in
range by accident, otherwise they are content to stay back and nit pick. It
would be nice to see them, when their large weapons are fully charged, to come
in to range, let loose, then push back to use the long range weapons again till
another recharge is full.
I am also wondering about ranges. Right now all my phasers are the same range,
light, medium, heavy etc. I am wondering if those should have diffrent ranges
as well.
Balance is the key to these kind of things and it is hard to find a good
balance, cause you have to know what your bad guys are going to do.
Guns especially have always beena problem in rpg like games, cause they can be
so devastating. One bullet in reality can kill most critters. Yet you don't
want your own units getting destroyed in a single shot. So the balanceing act
is always tough.
With zombies, they are great, cause they are usually found in great numbers
and just come at you regardless of danger. Kill one, and two more pop up and so
on.
al
"The truth will set you free"
Jesus Christ of Nazareth 33A.D.
----- Original Message -----
From: Austen Perry
To: ian-reeds-games@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 10:31 PM
Subject: [ian-reeds-games] Re: Tactical Battle 1.11 dev 5
well, i liited the ships to all but a few terrains but ran next int to
these problems.
1 even though they cant og on a wall tile with the move self they can
jump over them. this is ok in some instances but can you add a way to
make move self have a path it has to follow, or rather it cant go over
tiles that are impassable and or that the unit cant go on?.
this is because in an inside map jumping around needs to be roofed, or
if a person jumps over a wall because he is outside, wich is like the
ships jumping in space, and here i want an inside aproach where
because there are ceilings the wall then cant be jumped over.
if you get what i mean think about it as i am unable to make the map
work the way i want it to lol.
on the other hand i have made a commando lol, who has clips of
different types of amo and some guns and grenades lol, and can run and
take cover.
the problem is a bug in death effects.
when i want to make a skill called board commando, wich would
effectively get rid of the unit but give a commando point to the troop
carrier the unit does not die, it stays.
oddly though, when doing this and then using take cover, wich is
esentialy a passive protection effect he died instantly lol.
anyway yeah.
so going to start on some modern combat stuff now as space is breaking
the limits of this game a bit lol.
that said, i dreamed about a jungle map lastnight where you had to
chop up fallen trees stay on the path or get eaten by wolves and the
likes.
going to try and make some different types of soldiers commando was
just the generic starter i was trying to go for but i like. the only
thing i'm still trying to figure out is how to balance rapid fire,
wich would take 5 bullets a use but do 20 damage, and how to make it
limited without limiting everything else lol. i want to make it a good
kill weapon but not too much d.
right now its killing zombies with one 5 burst, wich i figured to be 4
damage pur bullet and five bullets, but then if randomness comes in it
will make it a lot better.
austen
On 12/30/12, Allan Thompson <allan1.thompson@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> I don't get it. I am not trying to be obtuse, I am not sure I follow what
> the problem is.
> I mean, My first thought for a map in space would be to have space as a
> terrain.
> My palnets and the like would have thier own terrain. Give terrain limits on
> each one, and your ships don't go on land, your ground guys don't go on
> space.
>
> If you want a ship on land, then create a land skill, where it gives the
> ship a flying flag for a duration.
> It would be nice to turn passive on and off. That way it could be on or off
> as the person needs it.
>
> Maybe a landing site could be ont he various planets and moons. Make it a
> terrain and add it tot he terrain limits. Doesn't it take a comma seperated
> number of terrains? Maybe I am wrong at that. If it does, then I would make
> that landing site one territory that both ground and ships can be on.
>
> But, I agree, there should be a block flying flag for those situations
> someone wants to use that. Come to think of it, when you mention tunnels, I
> am realizeing that a flying critter could easily pass "over" dungeon
> mountain or stone walls, when it was supposed to be underground and
> impassable in that way. Burrowing would be the flag for something like
> that, lol.
>
> so, yeah, I think you hit on a situation where flying is needed to be
> blocked!
>
> anyway, good luck on that, grin.
>
> I just checked, terrain limits does accept comma seperated terrains. That
> should be really helpful I think.
>
> al
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> Does that sound workable?
>
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> "The truth will set you free"
> Jesus Christ of Nazareth 33A.D.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Austen Perry
> To: ian-reeds-games@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2012 10:25 PM
> Subject: [ian-reeds-games] Re: Tactical Battle 1.11 dev 5
>
>
> rofl be nice to have a no terrain instead of terrain limit, as the
> only terrain i don't want other units on is space rofl.
>
>
>
> On 12/30/12, Allan Thompson <allan1.thompson@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> > Would this be the one map, or diffrent maps your talking about, where
> the
> > encounters take place?
> >
> > If you are worried aobut ground units, why not leave them as having a
> > terrain limitation and let everything else out in "space" walk about
> > normally, just call it space without any impassableness. The tunnel
> would
> > then be normal tiles for spacecraft.
> > Does that work, or am I missing the point? I mean, that is what I
> would
> > try anyway, grin.
> >
> > al
> > "The truth will set you free"
> > Jesus Christ of Nazareth 33A.D.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Austen Perry
> > To: ian-reeds-games@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2012 9:53 PM
> > Subject: [ian-reeds-games] Re: Tactical Battle 1.11 dev 5
> >
> >
> > hi,
> > i am going to make a moon battle for my space fleet, where the moon
> > has passages big enough for some ships and will be interesting.
> > the problem is space tiles are impassable, so therefore ships have
> > flying as a flag. because of this as well, making a map with
> > confinements is impossible, and the reason space is impassable is so
> > that ground units dont just get up and start walking in space.
> > i want one of 2 things as a feature,
> > 1 make a flag on terrain that impeeds movement from both normal moves
> > and flying. this would be like a superimpassable lol as i need
> > something to stop flying units.
> > 2 make it to where you can remove a flag from a unit on a map in the
> > map file, wich you currently cant do unless -flying will take the
> flag
> > flying away from the ships.
> > i am also glad i ran in to this as some flying units wouldn't be able
> > to go over some high structures and makes since.
> > i would also think about having structures be unflyoverable as a tall
> > building and with a ferry trying to fly over it would be better if
> the
> > ferry couldn't but could go over a short building.
> > just an idea and this problem pretty much stops me from making my map
> > wich i just suddenly got an inspiration to make from reading the
> > outlander series of graphic audio books lol.
> > if you dont know what that is check it out at
> > graphicaudio.net but its givven me a lot of ideas and vaddas war and
> > the sarano legacy can also be found there.
> > please let me know what might be done about an inside area where
> walls
> > are impassable to even flying units.
> >
> > austen
> >
> >
> >
> > On 12/30/12, Ian Reed <support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > Hey Austen,
> > >
> > > Wow, lots of ideas. Great stuff for my list.
> > >
> > > The binocluar skill is a good one. I've seen this done as a "far
> > > seeing" skill in other games.
> > > Additionally we should get a sight_range_modifier= flag at some
> point
> > so
> > > being on certain terrain could improve a unit's sight range or
> decrease
> > it.
> > > A boggy swamp or forest might be hard to see through while a hill
> might
> > > give you extra visibility.
> > >
> > > The fog is really only for the player. The AI works quite
> differently
> > > and out of necessity needs to see the whole map.
> > > Getting a feature for AI to ignore you could be done through
> > > invisibility or as you've mentioned before a flag that makes the AI
> > wait
> > > until you are in their sight range which is still on my list.
> > > The sight range modifier flag would solve the scanner scenario as
> the
> > > normal sight could be 0 or 1 and the scanner skill could apply an
> > effect
> > > that grants more sight for a duration.
> > >
> > > Regarding filling in fog. I think I'd do this with a visible flag
> on
> > > either terrain or regions.
> > > Then wherever the terrain or regions with that flag are placed
> would
> > > always be visible to the player.
> > >
> > > The fog should currently work as a unit hider.
> > > Basically there are unseen and unexplored.
> > > Once a tile has been seen it becomes explored and the player always
> > > knows the terrain that is there afterward.
> > > But once you move units so the tile is not in their sight range it
> > > becomes unseen.
> > > An unseen tile does not show you which enemy units are on it, but
> you
> > > still know the terrain.
> > >
> > > Another thought is that I could add an explored flag to terrain or
> > > regions so that they would already be explored when the player
> starts
> > > the map, but still unseen.
> > >
> > > Ian Reed
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
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