[huskerlug] Re: 64 bit adventure - part 2
- From: "Cesar Delgado" <cdelgad2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <huskerlug@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2004 01:00:43 -0600
From my understanding, and this is not Gentoo 2004.1, you need to
install the 32bit stuff. I didn't know about the chroot, I was under
the impression that you needed some tools you can emerge:
http://packages.gentoo.org/search/?sstring=32bit.
Hmm... The Operon I had to play with got sent back to the manufacturer
to get put into a new case so I can't test any of this out... I wish I
could.
Have you tried running Java on that box yet? Blackdown has a port for
x86_64 on their website, I'd be curious to know how it performs. I know
C screams, so Java should at least speak loudly....
-Cesar Delgado
---------------------------------------------
Research Computing Facility @ UNL
http://rcf.unl.edu
cdelgad2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx, beettlle@xxxxxxxxxxx
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> Subject: [huskerlug] 64 bit adventure - part 2
>
> Ok, I'm back to Gentoo and trying to find a workaround for the Samba
3.0
> in
> 64bitness lockup problem. The Knoppix/Debian chroot environment to
> compile a
> 64 bit kernel just wasn't working. I even tried compiling in Gentoo
then
> moving the kernel over to Knoppix and that didn't work well with
Debian's
> init.
>
> The system is working in KDE with the dual head system and networking.
> I've
> gotten a sigfault with konsole, but not system fatal faults. I
haven't
> attempted to get sound working yet.
>
> Anyhow Cesar, how did you install the 32 bit libaries? I'm trying
another
> chroot environment with the i686 32bit stage3 installer, but wonder if
> there
> is an easier way to do this.
>
> http://dev.gentoo.org/~tester/switcharch
>
> I did an ld on a 32bit binary (Neverwinter Nights actually), and it
gave
> me:
> ld: warning: i386 architecture of input file `nwmain' is incompatible
with
> i386:x86-64 output
> ld: warning: cannot find entry symbol _start; defaulting to
> 0000000000407900
>
> This enabled me to run the binary, better than where it got before
with
> simply
> bombing out. I might have to do that with every 32bit game I have,
which
> I
> kinda want to avoid especially when it comes to doing wine stuff.
>
> Now doing ldd on the binary, I got:
> libm.so.6 => /emul/i686/lib/libm.so.6 (0x5557c000)
> libpthread.so.0 => /emul/i686/lib/libpthread.so.0 (0x5559e000)
> libGL.so.1 => not found
> libGLU.so.1 => not found
> libmss.so.6 => not found
> libSDL-1.2.so.0 => not found
> libc.so.6 => /emul/i686/lib/libc.so.6 (0x555f0000)
> /lib/ld-linux.so.2 => /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x55555000)
>
> I'm getting close, I figure a recompile of all the X libraries and
OpenGL
> in
> the /emul/i686 chroot environment should get it. I just don't like
> sitting
> around for another 6 hours getting every kde, xfree, etc library
> recompiled.
> The /lib/ld-linux.so.2 one I copied over to the /lib dir from
> /emul/i686/lib
> per the instructions on the website I linked above.
>
> On Saturday 14 February 2004 01:42 pm, Cesar Delgado wrote:
> > No, what happens is that Gentoo comes with the 64 bit libraries by
> > default, but if you want to use the 32 bit ones, you have to install
> > them. They are there, just not installed by default.
> >
> > I was using the 2.5 kernel, because I couldn't get the 2.4 to work
with
> > XFS on the Opteron, and that is the FS that I needed. I'm sure 2.6
runs
> > beautifully on AMD64, =).
> >
> > -Cesar Delgado
> > ---------------------------------------------
> > Research Computing Facility @ UNL
> > http://rcf.unl.edu
> > cdelgad2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx, beettlle@xxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: huskerlug-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:huskerlug-
> > > bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of J.R. Wessels
> > > Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2004 1:01 PM
> > > To: HLUG
> > > Subject: [huskerlug] Re: amd 64 experiences?
> > >
> > > Didn't know 34 bit existed. ;-) Anyhow...
> > > So you don't need glib 64-bit libraries to run 64-bit apps when
you
> > > copied the /lib directory?
> > >
> > > Which kernel did it use? If it was 2.5 at the time, I'll probably
go
> > > for bleeding edge 2.6 and maybe throw in IPv6 for the heck of it.
> > >
> > > On Sat, 2004-02-14 at 11:23, Cesar Delgado wrote:
> > > > I've had Opteron experience and I guess it should translate
quite
> >
> > well
> >
> > > > to the AMD64 (Just with a little less cache and slower bus). I
> >
> > tried
> >
> > > > RedHat's 34/64 bit "beta" release before they decided to not let
us
> >
> > get
> >
> > > > their product. It didn't come with the 32 bit libraries, but
all I
> >
> > had
> >
> > > > to do was copy the /lib folder from my RH9 box and OpenOffice
ran
> >
> > fine.
> >
> > > > I also tried Gentoo. I was involved with the testing of the
AMD64
> >
> > bit
> >
> > > > version of it before it was released to the public. Besides
having
> >
> > to
> >
> > > > install grub with static libraries (which I don't care, it's the
> >
> > boot
> >
> > > > loader, it doesn't matter) everything else is sweet! You can
> >
> > install
> >
> > > > this 34 bit "tool-kit" to run all 32 bit apps. It's in their
> >
> > Portage
> >
> > > > tree and very simple to install. They also have a 'genkrnel'
> >
> > program
> >
> > > > that sets up the kernel for you with almost everything and a
handy
> > > > "hotplug" program that detects what you need for your system and
> >
> > loads
> >
> > > > the correct modules. About games and such, I don't know but
they
> >
> > have a
> >
> > > > kernel with the NVIDIA drivers and I've heard much talk on the
IRC
> >
> > of
> >
> > > > people playing games on it with no problems.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -Cesar Delgado
> > > > ---------------------------------------------
> > > > Research Computing Facility @ UNL
> > > > http://rcf.unl.edu
> > > > cdelgad2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx, beettlle@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: huskerlug-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:huskerlug-
> > > > > bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of J.R. Wessels
> > > > > Sent: Friday, February 13, 2004 11:55 PM
> > > > > To: HLUG
> > > > > Subject: [huskerlug] amd 64 experiences?
> > > > >
> > > > > I've got an AMD64 system on the way Real Soon Now(TM). Anyone
> >
> > have
> >
> > > > any
> > > >
> > > > > experiences setting up a hybrid 64/32 Linux system with it?
> > > > > I'm interested in anything related to:
> > > > > X-windows setup (especially with Nvidia GeForce 4)
> > > > > Compiler setup
> > > > > Propeitary games (such as Neverwinter Nights)
> > > > > Networking
> > > > > Choice of distro (Debian prefered, but I'll use others)
> > > > > Choice and compile options for kernel
> > > > > Anything I haven't thought of
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > J.R. Wessels
> > > > > http://ranko.homelinux.net
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