You know - it amazes me how people don't listen or understand. THERE IS LICENSED CODE IN BEOS!!! Be said this. A long time ago. I can even point out some pieces: the font renderer, the color management stuff. Be can not just whip the kimono off and open source the code. They would be in court and under court order before the first person could download it. There are pieces AND API's that can not be open sourced. I am under NDA for an api. I have none of that companies code. But I can not even show people the API without being hit with the full force of the law on this issue. Be can not just, say, remove the BitStream (IIRC) font engine or the Kodak color management stuff. The remaining pieces would demonstrate the APIs that these companies own. Be/Palm would have to put a lot of engineering time into obscuring the proprietary details. And they would still be open for a law suit. I have never heard of a pressure group. But there is 0% chance of Be/Palm doing what they asked. NOW - OTOH, is IS possible that some small number of people could become employees of a company, placed under NDA, and given the source. But that would entail funding, et al. If/when that happens, it is worthy of discussion. Until then, I just ignore this stuff. Except when I am grumpy. :-) Francois - none of this is aimed at you. I can't believe the founders of this pressure group. :-/ >Anyone saw this ? >http://www.benews.com/story/4129.1.html > >This could be neat, but I don't really expect it to succeed. > >François. > >