please see //www.freelists.org/archives/openbeos/11-2002/msg00105.html Cian Duffy and Charlie Clark get a gold star. Sorry everybody, but I totally got you. Michael, that's two now. "There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again." GWB