> >Michael Phipps wrote: > >>As far as OpenGL, porting Mesa sounds like a great idea. >>Honestly, OpenGL is the one area of BeOS that scares me. >>Not so much the software render side, but the "real", hardware accelerated >>stuff. Everyone that I have ever spoken to who should know says that >>Jason Samms is a *great* engineer. And that HWOGL is not really even >>near done. And that most mere mortals will struggle to understand it. > >My sense (from what I read on the user sites, and from knowing a >couple of the right people) is that the new OpenGL kit was pretty >complete. Jason did his job extraordinarily wel--what was missing was >a wide variety of hardware drivers. Or am I missing something? I have been lead to understand that it is not really done yet. What works is awesome, but it is not all there yet. So I have been told. >I do agree with you that OpenGL deserves its reputation (N.B. I have >no direct experience with it...I haven't done any coding in years.) >In particular, drivers aren't easy to write. Note Leo Schwab's >experience fighting with the 810 drivers, which I've heard him >describe in a couple forums...in theory, you'd expect reference >boards and documentation from a company at Intel's scale to be good, >and it <cough> wasn't a good experience. I am not surprised. Intel wrote the drivers for 810 for Windows. What other drivers would you need? Why document it well? :-) >It would be cool to hear from either Leo or Jason, or maybe even some >other ex-Be types like JBQ and Andrew Kimpton, weighing the design >tradeoffs of going with MESA or going with a replacement OpenGL kit. I would love to have a HWOGL fall into my lap. :-) I don't think (and this is my opinion only) that we should put bare minimum work into a software OGL renderer. Basically, they are worthless, since most opengl is for games, and no one wants 1fps games. >Who knows, maybe they're lurking, like I was. (Sorry to go </lurk> on >y'all, but I wanted to grab Jason's OpenGL back while I had a chance, >and then I couldn't resist the unwise temptation to keep typing.) > >Cheers, >Jim > >