Sorry, I'm newbie floundering again (:-() I want to figure out why one of my USB game controllers (Strategic Commander) works fine in Linux but is not recognised by Haiku. Another -- a ThrustMaster -- is perfect on both platforms. Their listusb output is virtually identical. I'm assuming that if I get the 'TRACE' statements in the usb_hid sources enabled, I'll see diagnostics in syslog, but how do I do that? I thought maybe doing a 'jam -sDEBUG=1 -q' would do it, and it generated a much bigger file, but there's no new output in syslog. (I tried -sDEBUG=9 and it started to compile the whole of Haiku into the usb_hid source dir!) Help. please? Thanks, -- Pete --