[guispeak] Re: : Microsoft ebook reader and the *.lit format. - method of converting
- From: "Laura Eaves" <leaves1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <guispeak@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2004 10:50:36 -0500
Hi all --
Actually, this is probably a dumb question that I can answer myself, but I
thought I'd throw it out for comment:
My brother (sighted) has been doing research on comparative religions and
has been studying the Quran in depth and has been very interested in some of
the misconceptions people have about it. Anyway, I asked him to send me a
piece of his research as he is writing a large document comparing references
to the New Testament, and he sent an email full of Sura and verse numbers
for me to read but no quoted text. So I downloaded the only translation of
the Quran available on bookshare.org and asked if he had read that
translation, which he hadn't, and asked if I could send him the text so he
could compare it. But unfortunately, I told him that there were all kinds
of nasty copyright notices and agreements you make when downloading and
unpacking stuff from bookshare, and since he isn't blind I thought that even
if I sent him the html version, it would be breaking the agreement. So he
told me not to send it.
But the Quran is available in text in all kinds of translations all over the
internet, which I found later -- but if a sighted person wants the html of
an e-book downloaded from bookshare, is it a serious infraction to share it?
Again, I suppose it is, and so I didn't send it. Just wondering if other
people have run into the same situations.
(Oh, and by the way -- the bookshare.org copy of the Quran is really lousy
in that it has no navigation markup -- it is one long text doc, and while
the Suras (chapters) are labeled, there are actually no verse numbers. So
if you ever have a desire to read the Quran yourself, get it from the net
instead of bookshare.org. I'm sending bookshare an email about the quality
of this book they have scanned, and I think I will also send them a link to
the site my brother gets his translations from, which again is all free and
accessible and contains many translations. I don't have the URL handy at
the moment, but if anyone wants it, just email me and I'll send the url.)
Take care.
--le
----- Original Message -----
From: "Darrell Shandrow" <nu7i@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: <guispeak@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2004 10:27 AM
Subject: [guispeak] Re: : Microsoft ebook reader and the *.lit format. -
method of converting
> Hi David,
>
> Hmm, well, actually, I'm not sure it would be breaking the law here in the
> states. Again, as I have previously indicated, there was some sort of
> interpretation of DMCA made last year that seems to indicate it is OK for
> us
> to crack copy protection if the aim is to gain accessibility and all other
> actions are legal.
>
>
> Darrell Shandrow - Shandrow Communications!
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "david poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <guispeak@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2004 7:59 AM
> Subject: [guispeak] Re: : Microsoft ebook reader and the *.lit format. -
> method of converting
>
>
>> What I am saying, is that security may block the convert process, but
>> let's
>> say it does not, then you are breaking the law, end of subject, end of
>> story. I don't know about other countries, but lists can be shut down
>> here
>> for discussing breaking the law and I would hate to see this one go away,
>> so
>> go away unless you want to discuss reasonable aproaches to solving these
>> issues.
>>
>> Johnnie Apple Seed
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Darrell Shandrow" <nu7i@xxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <guispeak@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2004 9:49 AM
>> Subject: [guispeak] Re: : Microsoft ebook reader and the *.lit format. -
>> method of converting
>>
>>
>> Hi David,
>>
>> If it provides any level of usable accessibility, then I am not so
>> concerned
>> about the security implications. After all, Microsoft failed to exercise
>> due diligence in considering our accessibility needs...
>>
>>
>> Darrell Shandrow - Shandrow Communications!
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>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "david poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <guispeak@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2004 6:25 AM
>> Subject: [guispeak] Re: : Microsoft ebook reader and the *.lit format. -
>> method of converting
>>
>>
>>> The question then becomes, how good is the result? I guess the answer
>>> will
>>> vary depending on how the .lit file is composed much the way pdf is
>>> composed
>>> and this also goes to the security issues. Will this conversion process
>>> intrude through security?
>>>
>>> Johnnie Apple Seed
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "robert dybas" <robert.a.dybas@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <guispeak@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 11:30 PM
>>> Subject: [guispeak] Re: : Microsoft ebook reader and the *.lit format. -
>>> method of converting
>>>
>>>
>>> there exits a command line program called convert lit
>>> convert lit converts lit files into html files.
>>> info is here:
>>> http://www.kyz.uklinux.net/convlit.php
>>> as of this date, a windows version may be downloaded at:
>>> http://www.convertlit.com/clit18.zip
>>>
>>> a gui front end for the command line version is available here:
>>> http://www.hot.ee/dukelupus/ConvertLIT.htm
>>> the download link is:
>>> http://www.hot.ee/dukelupus/ConvertLIT%20GUI%20v2.0.exe
>>>
>>> i have not yet tested the gui 2.0 as to it's speech reader friendliness.
>>>
>>> there also exists a set of batch files that allows the conversion
>>> program
>>> to be associated with the right click menu to allow easier use
>>> this worked with c lit 1.5 but i have not tested it with 1.8.
>>> i do not see a source for these right click files available in a quick
>>> check on google.
>>>
>>> r. a. d.
>>> whether the blind loophole in the copyright law applies to this is a =
>>> legal
>>> matter that i have not heard anyone address.
>>>
>>> On Sat, 13 Nov 2004 17:47:02 +0200, you wrote:
>>>
>>>>Thanks for this.
>>>>Do you know if there is any other way to extract the text from the *.lit
>>>>file and read it in other standard programs?
>>>>
>>>>Nektarios.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: guispeak@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:guispeak@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
>>>>Of Will Pearson
>>>>Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 3:55 PM
>>>>To: guispeak@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>Subject: [guispeak] Re: Microsoft ebook reader and the *.lit format.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Hi;
>>>>
>>>>Whilst MS Reader isn't supported by any of the screen readers, there is
>>>>a plug in. Microsoft have provided a text to speech plug in for Reader
>>>>that will read aloud the document. It's based on MS SAPI, and uses the
>>>>standard SAPI synth that ships with Windows. You can find a download
>>>>for this from the Reader downloads page.
>>>>
>>>>Will
>>>>----- Original Message -----=20
>>>>From: "Nektarios Mallas" <nmallas@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>To: <guispeak@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 6:39 AM
>>>>Subject: [guispeak] Microsoft ebook reader and the *.lit format.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hello list.
>>>>> Is Microsoft ebook reader accessible by screen readers? Is there
>>>>> any=20
>>>>> other way to access a *.lit file and extract the text from it so
>>>>> you=20
>>>>> can read it with standard applications such as wordpad? Thanks.
>>>>> Nektarios.
>>>>>
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