[guide.chat] manchester worse than mexico for drugs and murders

  • From: vanessa <qwerty1234567a@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "GUIDE CHAT" <guide.chat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2012 15:56:20 +0100

2012
A tale of two cities: Anger as Manchester is compared to centre of Mexico's 
drugs war as UN brands our inner-cities 'no-go' areas
UN narcotics chief: Manchester, Birmingham and Liverpool are comparable to 
Brazil and Mexico for their 'no-go' areas
Badly managed large scale immigration fuels the problem
'Drug traffickers, organised crime, drug users - they take over'
Celebrity use of drugs is helping to 'normalise use' in society
ACPO says it does 'not recognise the reference to "no go" areas in the UK'

British cities have lawless  ?no-go areas? comparable with the most dangerous 
parts of Brazil, Mexico and the U.S., according to a United Nations drugs chief.
Professor Hamid Ghodse claimed Birmingham, Liverpool and Manchester are on a 
par with the drug and murder capitals of the world.
The president of the International Narcotics Control Board said the police had 
lost control of parts of these cities, and drugs gangs had taken over.

Eleven-year-old Rhys Jones was one victim of the drug and gang culture 
permeating Britain.
The youngster was shot in the car park of a pub, in Croxteth, Liverpool, in 
August 2007 after innocently being caught up in a turf war between rival gangs.
Rhys was killed as he walked through a pub car park on his way home from 
football training.
Sean Mercer, then aged 16, was aiming at members of a rival gang when he 
blasted Rhys by mistake.
Members of Mercer?s Croxteth Crew helped him cover up his horrific crime.
Rhys was shot with a First World War Smith and Wesson revolver, and a 
gang-member was caught trying to buy a replacement weapon just weeks later.
Mercer was jailed for life and ordered to serve a minimum of 22 years.
But his comments caused fury from police and community leaders.
Tony Lloyd, Labour MP for Manchester Central, said: ?I walk the streets of  
Manchester on a regular basis. It is  not the same as Bogota, it is not the 
same as Mexico City. 
?He is either ignorant or stupid. If hehas surveyed my city from the decadence 
of a five-star hotel room then he may well draw those conclusions.
?If he had come out with me on the streets he would see that people are living 
happily and peacefully.?
Liverpool council leader Joe Anderson said: ?Anyone who knows Liverpool will 
not recognise the city from the way in which this report is being interpreted. 
'The comparisons are fanciful and it  is absurd to say any part of the city is  
a no-go area.? 
Ahead of the publication of the INCB?s annual report on drugs around the world, 
Professor Ghodse said urgent action was needed because parts of the UK were 
experiencing ?social disintegration?.
The Iranian-born doctor claimed that Birmingham, Liverpool and Manchester were 
experiencing ?a vicious cycle of social exclusion and drugs problems and 
fractured communities?.
?In many societies around the world, whether developed or developing, there are 
communities within the societies which develop which become no-go areas,? he 
went on. 
?Drug traffickers, organised crime, drug users, they take over. They will get 
the sort of governance of those areas.
?Examples are in Brazil, Mexico, in the United States, in the UK, Birmingham, 
Liverpool, Manchester, and therefore it is no good to have only law 
enforcement, which always shows it does not succeed.
?It is crucial that the needs of communities experiencing social disintegration 
are urgently tackled before the tipping point is reached, beyond which 
effective action becomes impossible.
?The consequences of failure are too high for society and should be avoided at 
all cost.?
The 'drug family' of Liverpool 
One example of the scourge of drugs in Liverpool was a family of drug dealers 
and their associates, last November were jailed for a total of 82 years for 
peddling heroin and crack cocaine on the streets of Liverpool.

Lisa Whitney and Carol Whitney, part of the 'drug family', were jailed for four 
and eight years respectively
As the net closed on the drug dealers, officers found an SA80 assault rifle 
which had been stolen from army barracks on Salisbury Plain in 2005, around 
1,200 rounds of ammunition as well as a large quantity of Class A substances.
Thirteen people involved in running a 24-hour drugs cash and carry service were 
jailed after months of surveillance.
Undercover officers from Merseyside Police posed as addicts to make 'test 
purchases' to gain the necessary evidence as undercover officers filmed the 
footage.
His comments were undermined by statistics showing the wildly differing crime 
rates between cities in England and South America. 
For example, the metropolitan area of Rio de Janeiro, which contains vast 
sprawling slums, saw 4,631 murders in 2009, including scores at the hands of 
drug dealers.

In contrast, there were 35  murders in Manchester in 2009-10 ? a record low ? 
and 27 in the  West Midlands.
The Greater Manchester police force boasts a 96.8 per cent detection rate for 
murders. Officials in Rio estimate there have been 60,000 unsolved murders in 
the past decade, including 24,000 where the body was unidentified.
Senior police officers also dismissed the claims. Tim Hollis, the Chief 
Constable of Humberside and the Association of Chief Police Officers? drugs 
spokesman said: ?I simply do not recognise the reference to ?no-go? areas in 
the UK. It appears to be set in the broader context of social cohesion.?
Assistant Chief Constable Steve Heywood of Greater Manchester Police said: ?I 
am sure that the majority of people in Manchester will wholeheartedly reject 
any suggestion that parts of the city are ?no-go? areas. 
?We accept that drugs are a major driving force behind many other crimes such 
as burglary, robbery and vehicle crime, and that is why we are determined to 
root out all those involved?.
Merseyside Police said it ?absolutely disagreed? there are any ?no-go areas? in 
Liverpool or elsewhere in the force area.
The illegal internet pharmacies peddling drugs via Facebook

Illegal internet pharmacies are targeting young people online through sites 
such as Facebook and YouTube, a United Nations drugs chief warned today.
Professor Hamid Ghodse, president of the UN?s International Narcotics Control 
Board (INCB), said illegal internet pharmacies were becoming 'very 
sophisticated' in approaching young people on social media sites, leaving them 
'very vulnerable' online.
He warned young people to be aware of whom they were talking to and interacting 
with on the internet.
'Disturbingly, illegal internet pharmacies have started to use social media to 
publicise their websites, which can put large audiences at risk of dangerous 
products,' Prof Ghodse said.
The World Health Organisation (WHO) has found more than half of medicines from 
internet pharmacies are counterfeit, he added.
'This has become really rather sinister now,' he said, 'it is much more 
widespread than you can believe it is.
'International illicit pharmacies are using social media and they are not just 
coming overtly as they used to do, advertising their selling of illicit drugs 
to you, they do it under a variety (of different ways).
'They use YouTube, they use Facebook, they attract you to their website ... 
Then when you go there you will see they are also selling illicit drugs.
'Particularly young people, they become very vulnerable in using internet 
pharmacies.'
Prof Ghodse went on: 'A few years ago it was direct, it was the internet 
selling all sorts of controlled drugs.
'But now actually they are using the social media, engaging people in a variety 
of ways which in the first instance you do not see they are marketing the drug.
'But then, in a very sophisticated way, they are getting the right question on 
to YouTube, on to Facebook, and even chatting in the chatrooms, they get 
engaged, and then bombard them with drugs.'
The INCB annual report added that the illegal firms took steps to ensure they 
looked legitimate, 'providing quotes and images of purported medical doctors'.
But it added that the firms had turned to 'message board and social network 
advertising' after several internet search engines banned the use of registered 
trademarks for prescription drugs in their sponsored links.
More than half (58 per cent) of the 12,000 seizures of controlled substances 
sent via the mail in 2010 were from India, with others from the US, China and 
Poland, and 'some of course in the UK', Prof Ghodse added.


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