Hi Elaine. I've got another tip for you re seder water. Mix it with some chilled wight wine and drink around 6 glass's. Now who care's about that stain anymore? -----Original Message----- From: elaine nutley - Email Address: e.nutley@xxxxxxx Sent On: 01/08/2009 18:14 Sent To: qwerty1234567a@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx, guide.chat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx - Email Address: qwerty1234567a@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx, guide.chat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [guide.chat] In Reply To: [guide.chat] Tips Hi Vanessa. Thank you for your tips, some of which I did remember my Mum telling me some years ago. The soda, though is a really good idea, as many ears ago, when we had out first pet dog , a friend of mine, told me that if he had an accident, to put soda water on the area, so that would then get rid of the scent, and the dog would not go there again, I have been using it in this way for years, every time we had a new puppy.. It has worked really well. Bye for now Elaine