Good question. I'll have to say it depends. Good lawyer answer, I know. But it looks to me as if Alexis gives you about a minute nine, and you should have been well clear before she started. I didn't catch the entire action, though, but I had Alexis starting on time and you a little late. From where I sat, it looked to me as if you could have come about and taken off. I thought Alexis was to leeward of you and on Port tack, while you were on Starboard. All things being equal, you could hail her and she would have to maneuver. But you would have had to hold your course. I don't know if you could have tacked quickly enough in the air we had yesterday, and if you couldn't have made the tack it might have been a dangerous situation. I think you handled it just fine. -----Original Message----- From: gpsbug-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gpsbug-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of George Christian Sent: Monday, August 30, 2004 7:24 PM To: jwandling@xxxxxxxxxxx; gpsbug@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Cc: 'Jeffrey Schoenberg' Subject: [gpsbug] Re: Updated Website - revised rating Does that mean if a boat is late over the starting line that the next boat has to wait until that boat crosses the line? All is fair in love and war! I gave way to Alexis and let her pass ahead of me and then I crossed the line on time. -----Original Message----- From: gpsbug-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gpsbug-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Wandling, John Sent: Monday, August 30, 2004 12:56 PM To: 'gpsbug@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' Cc: Jeffrey Schoenberg (j.schoenberg@xxxxxxxxxxx) Subject: [gpsbug] Updated Website - revised rating Folks, Please take a look at www.wandling.net/whiteshoal <http://www.wandling.net/whiteshoal> sometime before next week's race. Has starting times revised for Recovery. Based on a rating change from 232 to 237. I increased her rating a bit because I missed the roller furler and the old sail allowance. This should provide an interesting boat-for-boat race between her and Lady J, which also is rated 237. There is no change in overall standings caused by this change. Since we now have a couple of boats rated the same, though, and more boats, some reminders on starting line etiquette: 1. A boat who is not starting should stay clear of a boat trying to start. In our type of race, this means that you should keep clear of a boat who is starting ahead of you, even if it is only a few seconds. 2. If your starting times are the same, remember that starboard tack boats have rights....and so do leeward boats., and so do boats that are being overtaken. 3. After the start, you must be sailing a "proper course" to the next mark. This is usually not the rhumbline...there is quite a bit of latitude to accommodate tactics and the fact that boats may perform differently on different points of sail. If you are to leeward and someone is trying to pass, you can come up a bit to discourage them, for example, but it is not considered good to "luff" so agressively that you endanger the situation, or (as is more likely) both of you get way off the course. If I am being luffed agressively, I will try to find a path to leeward of the person luffing me. Have fun. See ya on the water. John