Great topic! Lots of great ideas for how to make things more findable. As much as I am against big government, I feel that government would need to step in and make labeling technologies a requirement in public buildings or office towers. I think of the times when I am in a bus loop and wishing that each bus had a beacon of some kind on it to identify the root number. I will definitely try some of these ideas out and see what might work in different situations. Marco -----Original Message----- From: gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jeff Kenyon Sent: May-02-14 12:44 PM To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: indoor orientation with beacons I can't speak for Seeing Eye but BlindSquare uses your cellular network. Sent from my iPhone > On May 2, 2014, at 2:06 PM, "Dale Leavens" <dleavens@xxxxxxx> wrote: > > I must confess that I have not attempted locating airport gates with an iPhone. Mostly though I have not had anything but limited success getting any GPS signal within a building. How does BlindSquare or SeeingEye do it? > > As nice as reliable beacons would be, tactile signs have been available since the beginning of time but are rarely present nor so called accessible elevators which announce the floor landed on, the direction of travel of an ariving car or verification of the level one is on when leaving a elevator car which has not announced it's location. This is not to deny a radio beacon available to my phone in such situations wouldn't be welcome, just an observation that the promise of technical accessibility features will need better implementation than the present manual features if we are to harvest improved benefit. > > Dale Leavens. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael May" <mikemay@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Friday, May 02, 2014 12:23 PM > Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: indoor orientation with beacons > > >> Thanks for the comments on this topic. >> >> I think the current implementation of beacon technology using Bluetooth low >> energy tags is too far along to be using other protocols or bands. >> Hopefully, technologists will make the most of what we now have. The tags >> are cheap, small and last for several years so adding them to the >> infrastructure is relatively inexpensive. Even with the flaws, this approach >> seems to have the most momentum of any indoor orientation we have seen to >> date. Note the use of the word orientation as opposed to navigation. If you >> have vision, then announcing that the milk section or elevator is nearby is >> helpful because the user can look around and see them. In some ways, it is To change your email settings (unsubscribe, digest only, or vacation mode): http://senderogroup.com/social_media/email.htm Additionally, to unsubscribe send an email to gps-talkusers-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe" in the Subject. To change your email settings (unsubscribe, digest only, or vacation mode): http://senderogroup.com/social_media/email.htm Additionally, to unsubscribe send an email to gps-talkusers-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe" in the Subject.