[gps-talkusers] Re: another new iphone navigation app
- From: Kevin Chao <kevinchao89@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 13:47:39 -0800
After playing with a number of accessible phones. The first phone being the
Nokia 6682, Nokia N82, HTC S730 and now, iPhone 3GS. After having the iPhone
since Oct 31, I still find that text entry on the N82 keypad using T9 is
certainly much faster than using a WM phone as far as responsiveness and
speed with the keypad or qwerty keyboard. Not only is text entry and
responsiveness better than the WM phone, it is faster than the touch
interface. But, the number of apps that are free and paid for are great and
there are over 100,000 apps! I find that the iPhone really is great as a PDA
first, then a phone.
To bring this back on topic, I have played with Google Maps. It is very
great to have the power of Google Maps in your pocket with great directions,
traffic report, AGPS, and on an iPhone. But, this app isn't intended for
us, the blind end-user. There are very specific features that are built-in
the Sendero GPS/SDK that are specific and make it so that I still depend and
utilize the Sendero GPS on the PK as an orientation tool. Just to name a
few, there is the great Braille support, automatic announcements, LookAround
information that can't be touched by any GPS/Accessible GPS.
Thanks,
Kevin
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gps-talkusers-
> bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Michael May
> Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 9:19 PM
> To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: another new iphone navigation app
>
> Interesting about the iPhone. People either really love it or can't
> stand it.
>
> I think the interface is not a matter of difficulty so much as it is
> a matter of technique. If you can get the hang of it, you love it.
> For many others, it is very sensitive and delicate and is frustrating.
>
> I think you have to be motivated by the cool or techy factor to deal
> with the learning curve where you actually enjoy the iPhone and are
> productive. I consider myself fairly techy but I am not nearly as
> productive with the touch screen interface as I am with my n86.
> Perhaps at a conference, we should have text messaging races to see
> on average which phone has the most productive interface. The fact
> that you have all these obscure apps on the iPhone is definitely
> attractive. I love the Pandora radio application. For me, that is the
> best thing about an iTouch or iPhone. The GPS on the other hand, does
> not hold a candle to any accessible GPS app.
>
> Mike
>
>
>
> At 08:53 PM 12/7/2009, you wrote:
> >I should try out that app. There is even an app for indoor
> >navigation , released today
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >Kevin
> >Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >On Dec 7, 2009, at 7:50 PM, Michael May <MikeMay@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >wrote:
> >
> >>We have someone testing Navigon and hope to have a report before
> >>long. From what I hear, it covers the basics pretty well assuming
> >>you can deal with the touch screen interface of the iPhone, not for
> >>the faint of heart.
> >>
> >>However, you can assume that applications designed for the sighted
> >>will never provide Look Around and other modes useful to blind users.
> >>
> >>As I know you understand, prices are based on the number of users
> >>for a product. iPhone apps are based on sales to millions and apps
> >>for blind users are based on low thousands of users. Sendero users
> >>have a direct voice in influencing features versus having no
> >>influence on a main stream product. This is the good news bad news
> >>of being a big fish in a small pond versus a small fish in the ocean.
> >>
> >>Mike
> >>
> >>At 04:18 PM 12/7/2009, Mike Arrigo wrote:
> >>>I agree, though I'm not sure how accessible the new app is, I know
> >>>the navigon works well. This is not meant as a criticism aganst
> >>>Sendero, they have good products, but the prices are very high.
> >>>Hopefully more and more main stream devices and applications will
> >>>becme accessible the way navigon is on the iphone, really that's
> >>>the way it should be.
> >>>On Dec 7, 2009, at 9:17 AM, Baracco, Andrew W wrote:
> >>>
> >>> > This is exciting. Another indication that implementation of
> >>>principles
> >>> > of universal design can result in the lack of need for overpriced
> >>> > specialized products.
> >>> > Andy
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > -----Original Message-----
> >>> > From: gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>> > [mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mike
> >>>Arrigo
> >>> > Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 4:25 PM
> >>> > To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>> > Subject: [gps-talkusers] another new iphone navigation app
> >>> >
> >>> > Hi all, well, Magellan just released the first version of their
> >>> > navigation app, wonder how accessible it is. Apparently, navigon
> is
> >>> > adding walk navigation, and once they do that, it should provide
> >>>just
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> >>
> >>Michael G. May
> >>
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> Michael G. May
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> CEO Sendero Group
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> Braille Sense products, Mobile Geo on Windows phones and StreetTalk
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> Symbian phones. Also distributing Victor Stream, KNFB Mobile Reader,
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