----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary L. Shelton" <GaryLShelton@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 5:40 AM Subject: [geocentrism] small concession today on BadAstronomy > Group, > I don't want to claim much for this, but in the battlefield that is BadAstronomy, it is all I can claim thusfar as far as concessions. Well done Gary!!! > Rob Glover writes: > This leads us to only two possibilities: > > 1) The Earth and the atmosphere are not turning, > 2) The Earth and the atmosphere are turning together. > > Can I check that you don't disagree with these two possibilities either as being the two hypotheses to test? A most sensible attitude to take. > Now we are stating that (2) is the correct answer. If we focus our conversation and debate on this, the airplane problem will fall into place as a result, won't it? This is typical of the immediate subjectivity and bias that secular scientists use before attacking the problem. If he is to be truly objective he should consider neither to be correct until they have been tested. His problem is that he is faced with something that could directly attack his heliocentric world view. Therefore it is unlikely that he would ever consider 1)! Make sure he does Gary. God bless Jack